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Message: <blockquote data-quote="zealous" data-source="post: 6008502" data-attributes="member: 606116">Holocaust deniers can simply be pointed to mass graves, concentration camps, photos, etc. Fairy lovers can be asked why it would be logical to believe fairies existed.  You ask for reproducible, empirical data as your evidence, yet humanity has no way of providing empirical data for everything (in actuality, very few things) in the Universe, let alone outside of it, and since the God I believe in transcends this Universe, there is no reason to assume that my God should be detectable/traceable by reproducible, empirical data. The fact that my God is a person further complicates demands for reproducible, empirical data. Here's a hypothetical situation: Let us say that I am an extremely wealthy, well connected person and you're an average joe whom I have just met outside the coffee shop. We don't exchange names or any other info, but have a conversation about coffee cup lids. You tell the story to a scientist friend of yours and he demands that you provide reproducible, empirical evidence that I exist. You begin your search, but I am in hiding, using my wealth and status to conceal my very existence to anyone who isn't looking for me, or who says they want to find me, but who's desire is only superficial. How would you go about obtaining reproducible, empirical evidence in such a case?Also, I find it quite odd that atheists have little to no respect for the good that religion, especially Christianity, has done for humanity. Where do you think the morals/laws that keep people from murdering and stealing from one another came from? Do you really believe that such morals/laws do harm to humanity? Frankly, the majority of the posts I have seen in this thread are skeptical in nature. I think that atheists are definitely allowed to be skeptical, and, it must be noted, that the only reason they are allowed to do so is that this country is founded upon Christian morals that hold that you have certain rights that are inalienable, ie. freedom of religion (or lack thereof //content.invisioncic.com/y282845/emoticons/wink.gif.608e3ea05f1a9f98611af0861652f8fb.gif), and freedom of speech. Now, as much as you want yoke all religious people together, it is unfair to do so. When was the last time a group of American Christians got together because they are Christians who hate Muslims, and decided to act upon that hatred? And what if you were in the position of a Jew, having rockets fired into your backyard? The situation is much more complicated than your broad paintbrush acknowledges.</blockquote>

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