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Message: <blockquote data-quote="galacticmonkey" data-source="post: 6007673" data-attributes="member: 570857">I was debating this the other night with some friends for literally hours. Their points were as follows:- I was living a bad life, then I accepted it as real, Im doing well now. That means God is real.- The bible said the earth was round, therefore that means God is real.- The bible says many will speak out against that which they do not understand, which means you dont understand what is real, therefore God is real.- We are here therefore God is real.- People experience medical miracles therefore God is real.- People change from athiest to Christian therefore God is real.Those were just a few of the rediculous arguements they used.Everytime I tried to use any kind of scientific evidence or any real world tangible evidence, he just said it wasnt real. For instance I told them they found the 47million year old missing link to humans which was a sort of lemur monkey. His arguement was that it wasnt really a missing link. I told him that through carbon dating the deepest rocks of the earth that we know its a couple billion years old. He said thats not credible because the Bible doesnt say so. Supposedly carbon dating isnt real and its just a guess a scientist makes.I was explaining the reasoning behind why they think the big bang is a good theory. If something moves in a straight line at 1mph for 5 hours, it will be 5 miles away. It it moves for another 10 hours, thats 15 miles away from the starting point. If there are a bunch of these points (points in our universe) and we know their direction and speed (trajectory), we can tell where they met and exactly how long ago they met at that common point. His arguement was that its just something I read in a textbook and textbooks always change.I told him thats just physics and cannot change. I also told him textbooks and scientific theory always change because we are looking for the best answer, and whenever we find new evidence that supports a different theory, that is what is accepted as the best theory. The bible just says "this is how it happened, even if someone that makes more sense is found, it must be false because this book is always right no matter what".When a bible thumper dies and they dont end up in a land of clouds, angels, dead relatives, god, etc but end up being eaten by worms and decomposing its going to be a serious case of POW! RIGHT IN THE KISSER!</blockquote>

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