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<blockquote data-quote="squeak9798" data-source="post: 6003661" data-attributes="member: 555320">I was thinking on my way to work this morning.....Creationist/etc like to point out how the universe is suited exactly for life to exist.&nbsp; As Neil pointed out earlier, the anthropic principle states the obvious; Of course the universe is suitable for life otherwise we wouldn&#039;t be here to observe it.&nbsp; The very fact we are here to observe it requires that the universe be suitable for our lifeforms to have developed.IMO, the creationists are going about it the wrong way.&nbsp; Instead of attempting to prove how well suited for life the universe is.....they need to be proving how unsuitable for life the universe is.&nbsp; Nothing would blow my mind more than it requiring a miracle for us to exist.&nbsp; Gravitation too weak for our planet to be held together.&nbsp; The strong force having been too weak for particles to form.&nbsp; The physics of the sun simply impossible.&nbsp; God bending the laws of physics special just for us.&nbsp; That would be impressive evidence to have on your side!And yet...here we are, surrounded by a universe constrained by physical laws that look exactly how we would expect them to look in order for the universe to sustain life forms such as ourselves.&nbsp; Nothing to see here folks, keep moving along.........</blockquote>

[QUOTE="squeak9798, post: 6003661, member: 555320"] I was thinking on my way to work this morning.....Creationist/etc like to point out how the universe is suited exactly for life to exist. As Neil pointed out earlier, the anthropic principle states the obvious; Of course the universe is suitable for life otherwise we wouldn't be here to observe it. The very fact we are here to observe it [B]requires[/B] that the universe be suitable for our lifeforms to have developed. IMO, the creationists are going about it the wrong way. Instead of attempting to prove how well suited for life the universe is.....they need to be proving how [I]un[/I]suitable for life the universe is. Nothing would blow my mind more than it [I]requiring[/I] a miracle for us to exist. Gravitation too weak for our planet to be held together. The strong force having been too weak for particles to form. The physics of the sun simply impossible. God [I]bending[/I] the laws of physics special just for us. [B]That[/B] would be impressive evidence to have on your side! And yet...here we are, surrounded by a universe constrained by physical laws that look [I]exactly[/I] how we would [I]expect[/I] them to look in order for the universe to sustain life forms such as ourselves. Nothing to see here folks, keep moving along......... [/QUOTE]

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