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<blockquote data-quote="Proximity" data-source="post: 7929424" data-attributes="member: 589997">This is why it&#039;s impossible to have a discussion with you. I&#039;m explicitly telling you my argument is that tax rates (for the rich) do NOT have a direct correlation with the strength of the economy. But then, you completely ignore what I say and instead, tell me what my argument is (and that it&#039;s the complete opposite of my argument, no less). You&#039;re really good at agreeing with people, but you just can&#039;t hold a logical conversation without resorting to straw man or ad hominem.And no, the Democrats are logically and empirically in the center of the discussion. They view government as a viable vehicle to solve societies problems but still want a capitalist economy. That is a centrist, logical view to have. It is not extreme. Republicans, however, actively deny that the government has ANY role in the economy, and that is an extreme right position. I&#039;m sure you hate using your own logic against you, but this is just fact. If pure socialism is on the left and pure capitalism is on the right, the Democrats are in the center and Republicans are closer to extreme right than the center.And sorry, I still think it&#039;s fair, morally speaking. No one needs that much money, especially when it can be used to help people who make barely 3% of that. Is that to say I&#039;d support an actual policy for such an extreme position? No. 50%? Maybe.</blockquote>

[QUOTE="Proximity, post: 7929424, member: 589997"] This is why it's impossible to have a discussion with you. I'm explicitly telling you my argument is that tax rates (for the rich) do NOT have a direct correlation with the strength of the economy. But then, you completely ignore what I say and instead, tell me what my argument is (and that it's the complete opposite of my argument, no less). You're really good at agreeing with people, but you just can't hold a logical conversation without resorting to straw man or ad hominem. And no, the Democrats are logically and empirically in the center of the discussion. They view government as a viable vehicle to solve societies problems but still want a capitalist economy. That is a centrist, logical view to have. It is not extreme. Republicans, however, actively deny that the government has ANY role in the economy, and that is an extreme right position. I'm sure you hate using your own logic against you, but this is just fact. If pure socialism is on the left and pure capitalism is on the right, the Democrats are in the center and Republicans are closer to extreme right than the center. And sorry, I still think it's fair, morally speaking. No one needs that much money, especially when it can be used to help people who make barely 3% of that. Is that to say I'd support an actual policy for such an extreme position? No. 50%? Maybe. [/QUOTE]

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