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<blockquote data-quote="MisterDeadeye" data-source="post: 7925529" data-attributes="member: 611015"><p>Thank you for letting me address (again) the issue I tried to address three times earlier. Because this year, kid 3 didn't do trick-or-treating, and the adult knows that, kid 3 gets nothing. The two new kids get nothing because they did nothing. You get rewarded for putting work in, not for being poor. That's why welfare needs reform. I have never tried to imply otherwise. If you work as hard as everyone else, arguably harder, don't you feel like you should get a share?</p><p></p><p>It never becomes a burden because 1% is negligible regardless of what you tell me. Fire the douche employees who think they are the same as you(I never said that the workers who make products are worth the same as CEOs). They make more money, and have the liberty of firing their employees. There are no new regulations. There is a tax, which relates only to everyone's paycheck. No one is telling you what you can or cannot do. You're free to move wherever you like. But I think we both know that these big time CEOs wouldn't like it in Europe where there's more regulation and social policies.</p><p></p><p>On your last point, I agree. This is one of the biggest problems we face now.</p><p></p><p></p><p>I've just woken up and am about to go take a shower, but expect an incoming PM. No, the policies are not conservative talking points(ie., birth control = Catholics are so mad, or Obama has done nothing to guns = HE TOOK AWAY OUR GUNS!)</p><p></p><p>And the policies are mostly just continuations of earlier policies that I found horrible when they were first enacted.</p><p></p><p>Double, fairness =/= socialism. That's the point I tried to make earlier. Socialism is a system(economic) in which goods and products are made directly for use. This means that instead of having Coca-Cola make soda all data every day, to make a profit and make money, they make it based on how useful it is for the people. Considering it's relatively useless, it would not be made.</p><p></p><p>Regardless of what anyone says, you cannot have socialism and capitalism. They're polar opposites. Production for profit, or production for use. These are the most basic, glaring differences between the two systems. There may be a mixture of some other type of "socialism" with capitalism, but the two economic systems are, in essence, mutually exclusive. In socialism, things are state owned. Not so in capitalism. The contrasting features would literally fill this page.</p><p></p><p>By the way, fairness sounds a lot like equal opportunity, which sounds exactly like social liberalism. It's not an economic policy, but a social one. Completely unrelated to both socialism and capitalism. Fairness has nothing to do with socialism. How is it fair for the citizens to own nothing and the government own everything? In a global economy, pure socialism can't work because people have no real say in anything.</p><p></p><p>However, Prox is right. We live in a mixed economy based on capitalism.</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="MisterDeadeye, post: 7925529, member: 611015"] Thank you for letting me address (again) the issue I tried to address three times earlier. Because this year, kid 3 didn't do trick-or-treating, and the adult knows that, kid 3 gets nothing. The two new kids get nothing because they did nothing. You get rewarded for putting work in, not for being poor. That's why welfare needs reform. I have never tried to imply otherwise. If you work as hard as everyone else, arguably harder, don't you feel like you should get a share? It never becomes a burden because 1% is negligible regardless of what you tell me. Fire the douche employees who think they are the same as you(I never said that the workers who make products are worth the same as CEOs). They make more money, and have the liberty of firing their employees. There are no new regulations. There is a tax, which relates only to everyone's paycheck. No one is telling you what you can or cannot do. You're free to move wherever you like. But I think we both know that these big time CEOs wouldn't like it in Europe where there's more regulation and social policies. On your last point, I agree. This is one of the biggest problems we face now. I've just woken up and am about to go take a shower, but expect an incoming PM. No, the policies are not conservative talking points(ie., birth control = Catholics are so mad, or Obama has done nothing to guns = HE TOOK AWAY OUR GUNS!) And the policies are mostly just continuations of earlier policies that I found horrible when they were first enacted. Double, fairness =/= socialism. That's the point I tried to make earlier. Socialism is a system(economic) in which goods and products are made directly for use. This means that instead of having Coca-Cola make soda all data every day, to make a profit and make money, they make it based on how useful it is for the people. Considering it's relatively useless, it would not be made. Regardless of what anyone says, you cannot have socialism and capitalism. They're polar opposites. Production for profit, or production for use. These are the most basic, glaring differences between the two systems. There may be a mixture of some other type of "socialism" with capitalism, but the two economic systems are, in essence, mutually exclusive. In socialism, things are state owned. Not so in capitalism. The contrasting features would literally fill this page. By the way, fairness sounds a lot like equal opportunity, which sounds exactly like social liberalism. It's not an economic policy, but a social one. Completely unrelated to both socialism and capitalism. Fairness has nothing to do with socialism. How is it fair for the citizens to own nothing and the government own everything? In a global economy, pure socialism can't work because people have no real say in anything. However, Prox is right. We live in a mixed economy based on capitalism. [/QUOTE]
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