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<blockquote data-quote="TannoH" data-source="post: 5829370" data-attributes="member: 609383"><p>In my opinion one of the most convincing arguments for God is that of the existence of moral law. When a small child is ditched in line he somehow knows that "that's not fair!" Why is that? The answer is best given in the reality of the absolute moral law. If a common moral law exists then that necessitates a Moral Law Giver,God.</p><p></p><p>One looks at the Holocaust and concludes that the Germans' actions were "atrocious" and "evil". This might beg the question "Why is killing evil?". The question is best answered by assuming something was able to write this law on our hearts with intentions to leading us to an even greater moral perfection. Once again that something is God.</p><p></p><p>The Argument is best summed up in the following:</p><p></p><p>1.There is a universal moral law</p><p></p><p>2.Such a moral law would imply a Law Giver</p><p></p><p>3.Thus, God exists as the Law Giver</p><p></p><p>There is still the question of evil. If there is such a law then why aren't murders and rapists bound by it? The answer is that they are or at least they were. People aren't born killers. People make decisions that lead to habits that lead to lifestyles.</p><p></p><p>I once saw an interview with Jeffrey Dahmer while he was in prison. The interviewer asked him to describe how he came to do the monstrous things he did. Jeffrey answered by saying that he basically had to battle his conscience to commit that first **** and murder. After that it became less of a moral issue each time he did it. However, after the fact Dahmer went on to say he became aware of the atrocity of his actions through contemplation of his acts well after he committed them. In essence, even if one is able to shrug off his conscience for a few moments it still comes back to haunt him once he's had time to think about it.</p><p></p><p>On the other end of the spectrum, we see moral law coming to perfection in the lives of saints and the like. They have demonstrated that when we follow our conscience it ultimately leads to the Almighty and then to moral perfection in God. This manifests itself in acts of extreme self-sacrifice and selflessness in order to help others with no ulterior motives whatsoever.</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="TannoH, post: 5829370, member: 609383"] In my opinion one of the most convincing arguments for God is that of the existence of moral law. When a small child is ditched in line he somehow knows that "that's not fair!" Why is that? The answer is best given in the reality of the absolute moral law. If a common moral law exists then that necessitates a Moral Law Giver,God. One looks at the Holocaust and concludes that the Germans' actions were "atrocious" and "evil". This might beg the question "Why is killing evil?". The question is best answered by assuming something was able to write this law on our hearts with intentions to leading us to an even greater moral perfection. Once again that something is God. The Argument is best summed up in the following: 1.There is a universal moral law 2.Such a moral law would imply a Law Giver 3.Thus, God exists as the Law Giver There is still the question of evil. If there is such a law then why aren't murders and rapists bound by it? The answer is that they are or at least they were. People aren't born killers. People make decisions that lead to habits that lead to lifestyles. I once saw an interview with Jeffrey Dahmer while he was in prison. The interviewer asked him to describe how he came to do the monstrous things he did. Jeffrey answered by saying that he basically had to battle his conscience to commit that first **** and murder. After that it became less of a moral issue each time he did it. However, after the fact Dahmer went on to say he became aware of the atrocity of his actions through contemplation of his acts well after he committed them. In essence, even if one is able to shrug off his conscience for a few moments it still comes back to haunt him once he's had time to think about it. On the other end of the spectrum, we see moral law coming to perfection in the lives of saints and the like. They have demonstrated that when we follow our conscience it ultimately leads to the Almighty and then to moral perfection in God. This manifests itself in acts of extreme self-sacrifice and selflessness in order to help others with no ulterior motives whatsoever. [/QUOTE]
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