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Hertz MLK165 FAKE/REAL??! ebay
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<blockquote data-quote="noms78" data-source="post: 7442654" data-attributes="member: 635272"><p>You have got to be kidding me? Of course there will be a difference in sound between genuine speakers and fakes. Chinese counterfeiting operations are very established and sophisticated now. They have the ingenuity, machines and people to make copies of "mechanically simple" items such as speakers. It is well documented that there are fake HSK165 speakers floating around. I just spoke to a car audio retailer and he told me he recently saw some fake DLS speakers (there were spelling mistakes on the box).</p><p></p><p>I received a fake Wilson ncode Tour 90 tennis racquet that "felt" different to the real thing. Just imagine how different high-fidelity electronic equipment would be.</p><p></p><p>Back to the speakers I received. The light grey capacitors in the crossovers look sloppy and fake as hell. Look at the ends and the missing paint:</p><p></p><p><a href="http://www.users.on.net/~wren26/19a.jpg" target="_blank">http://www.users.on.net/~wren26/19a.jpg</a></p><p></p><p>In genuine crossovers, I have seen two variations of these capacitors (left: fake, right: genuine):</p><p></p><p><a href="http://magnitola.org/attachments/car-audio-sovety-po-avtozvuku/30200d1261483876-hertz-mlk165-ketai-krossy.jpg" target="_blank">http://magnitola.org/attachments/car-audio-sovety-po-avtozvuku/30200d1261483876-hertz-mlk165-ketai-krossy.jpg</a></p><p></p><p>In the second photo they are shiny and have little metal clips at the base of the wires.</p><p></p><p><a href="http://www.users.on.net/~wren26/genuine%20MLK/fotka16.JPG" target="_blank">http://www.users.on.net/~wren26/genuine%20MLK/fotka16.JPG</a></p><p></p><p>The fakes also have different text (335 J 100V instead of 3.3μF 100v) on the large white capacitor, and have a grey capacitor (should be white) above the inductor.</p><p></p><p>Tweeter (and woofer) grills are thicker on the fakes (left: fake, right: genuine)</p><p></p><p><a href="http://magnitola.org/attachments/car-audio-sovety-po-avtozvuku/30198d1261483876-hertz-mlk165-ketai-vch-anfas.jpg" target="_blank">http://magnitola.org/attachments/car-audio-sovety-po-avtozvuku/30198d1261483876-hertz-mlk165-ketai-vch-anfas.jpg</a></p><p></p><p>Look at the variation in the characters of the word "HERTZ". Genuine speakers have a thinner font and perfect finish.</p><p></p><p><a href="http://www.users.on.net/~wren26/01.jpg" target="_blank">http://www.users.on.net/~wren26/01.jpg</a></p><p></p><p><a href="http://www.users.on.net/~wren26/02.jpg" target="_blank">http://www.users.on.net/~wren26/02.jpg</a></p><p></p><p><a href="http://www.users.on.net/~wren26/03.jpg" target="_blank">http://www.users.on.net/~wren26/03.jpg</a></p><p></p><p>These irregular stampings are caused by mechanical failure not human error. The engineering quality is no where near as good as the originals.</p><p></p><p>Here are some good links to additional photos of fakes:</p><p></p><p><a href="http://www.diymobileaudio.com/forum/general-car-audio-discussion-no-question-dumb/109206-fake-hertz-2.html" target="_blank">http://www.diymobileaudio.com/forum/general-car-audio-discussion-no-question-dumb/109206-fake-hertz-2.html</a></p><p></p><p><a href="http://magnitola.com/en/prodam/65231-kinuli-na-poddelku-mlk165-13.html" target="_blank">http://magnitola.com/en/prodam/65231-kinuli-na-poddelku-mlk165-13.html</a></p><p></p><p><a href="http://translate.google.com.au/translate?hl=en&amp;ie=UTF8&amp;prev=_t&amp;sl=auto&amp;tl=en&amp;twu=1&amp;u=http://magnitola.org/car-audio-sovety-po-avtozvuku/61552-hertz-mlk165-ketai.html" target="_blank">http://translate.google.com.au/translate?hl=en&amp;ie=UTF8&amp;prev=_t&amp;sl=auto&amp;tl=en&amp;twu=1&amp;u=http://magnitola.org/car-audio-sovety-po-avtozvuku/61552-hertz-mlk165-ketai.html</a></p><p></p><p>-Jon</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="noms78, post: 7442654, member: 635272"] You have got to be kidding me? Of course there will be a difference in sound between genuine speakers and fakes. Chinese counterfeiting operations are very established and sophisticated now. They have the ingenuity, machines and people to make copies of "mechanically simple" items such as speakers. It is well documented that there are fake HSK165 speakers floating around. I just spoke to a car audio retailer and he told me he recently saw some fake DLS speakers (there were spelling mistakes on the box). I received a fake Wilson ncode Tour 90 tennis racquet that "felt" different to the real thing. Just imagine how different high-fidelity electronic equipment would be. Back to the speakers I received. The light grey capacitors in the crossovers look sloppy and fake as hell. Look at the ends and the missing paint: [URL="http://www.users.on.net/~wren26/19a.jpg"]http://www.users.on.net/~wren26/19a.jpg[/URL] In genuine crossovers, I have seen two variations of these capacitors (left: fake, right: genuine): [URL="http://magnitola.org/attachments/car-audio-sovety-po-avtozvuku/30200d1261483876-hertz-mlk165-ketai-krossy.jpg"]http://magnitola.org/attachments/car-audio-sovety-po-avtozvuku/30200d1261483876-hertz-mlk165-ketai-krossy.jpg[/URL] In the second photo they are shiny and have little metal clips at the base of the wires. [URL="http://www.users.on.net/~wren26/genuine%20MLK/fotka16.JPG"]http://www.users.on.net/~wren26/genuine%20MLK/fotka16.JPG[/URL] The fakes also have different text (335 J 100V instead of 3.3μF 100v) on the large white capacitor, and have a grey capacitor (should be white) above the inductor. Tweeter (and woofer) grills are thicker on the fakes (left: fake, right: genuine) [URL="http://magnitola.org/attachments/car-audio-sovety-po-avtozvuku/30198d1261483876-hertz-mlk165-ketai-vch-anfas.jpg"]http://magnitola.org/attachments/car-audio-sovety-po-avtozvuku/30198d1261483876-hertz-mlk165-ketai-vch-anfas.jpg[/URL] Look at the variation in the characters of the word "HERTZ". Genuine speakers have a thinner font and perfect finish. [URL="http://www.users.on.net/~wren26/01.jpg"]http://www.users.on.net/~wren26/01.jpg[/URL] [URL="http://www.users.on.net/~wren26/02.jpg"]http://www.users.on.net/~wren26/02.jpg[/URL] [URL="http://www.users.on.net/~wren26/03.jpg"]http://www.users.on.net/~wren26/03.jpg[/URL] These irregular stampings are caused by mechanical failure not human error. The engineering quality is no where near as good as the originals. Here are some good links to additional photos of fakes: [URL="http://www.diymobileaudio.com/forum/general-car-audio-discussion-no-question-dumb/109206-fake-hertz-2.html"]http://www.diymobileaudio.com/forum/general-car-audio-discussion-no-question-dumb/109206-fake-hertz-2.html[/URL] [URL="http://magnitola.com/en/prodam/65231-kinuli-na-poddelku-mlk165-13.html"]http://magnitola.com/en/prodam/65231-kinuli-na-poddelku-mlk165-13.html[/URL] [URL="http://translate.google.com.au/translate?hl=en&ie=UTF8&prev=_t&sl=auto&tl=en&twu=1&u=http://magnitola.org/car-audio-sovety-po-avtozvuku/61552-hertz-mlk165-ketai.html"]http://translate.google.com.au/translate?hl=en&ie=UTF8&prev=_t&sl=auto&tl=en&twu=1&u=http://magnitola.org/car-audio-sovety-po-avtozvuku/61552-hertz-mlk165-ketai.html[/URL] -Jon [/QUOTE]
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