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<blockquote data-quote="ekincam" data-source="post: 3525424" data-attributes="member: 581428">I had an Eclipse 8454 that had an internal amp that could be turned off.&nbsp; I *think* I had a Kenwood before that could have the internal amp disabled, but I haven&#039;t touched that thing since 2004 so I don&#039;t remember.But you can still use any head unit with or without the internal amp disabled since you are just going to use the pre-outs.&nbsp; If you limit yourself to those with defeatable amp, you may not get all the features you want.I really liked the Eclipse because it would display function of the six soft keys on the display.&nbsp; If you were using the tuner, for example, it would display the 3 or 4 digit frequency of the station and still display the current station and other info on the display.I currently have a Pioneer DEH-P860MP and it is capable of displaying 3 or 4 different colors at the same time.&nbsp; However, it allows control of the colors of the display.&nbsp; YOu can set it so it will only display 1 of the 3 or 4 colors and with or without background animation.&nbsp; The blue buttons cannot change color though.&nbsp; The eclipse I could choose green or red.Also buttons are sometimes useful.&nbsp; On my Pioneer I have to go to a menu to pause the CD.&nbsp; There are six soft keys on the front for the radio presets but that&#039;s all.&nbsp; They have no other function which I find totally sucks because they could be useful as soft keys to pause the CD player for example.</blockquote>

[QUOTE="ekincam, post: 3525424, member: 581428"] I had an Eclipse 8454 that had an internal amp that could be turned off. I *think* I had a Kenwood before that could have the internal amp disabled, but I haven't touched that thing since 2004 so I don't remember. But you can still use any head unit with or without the internal amp disabled since you are just going to use the pre-outs. If you limit yourself to those with defeatable amp, you may not get all the features you want. I really liked the Eclipse because it would display function of the six soft keys on the display. If you were using the tuner, for example, it would display the 3 or 4 digit frequency of the station and still display the current station and other info on the display. I currently have a Pioneer DEH-P860MP and it is capable of displaying 3 or 4 different colors at the same time. However, it allows control of the colors of the display. YOu can set it so it will only display 1 of the 3 or 4 colors and with or without background animation. The blue buttons cannot change color though. The eclipse I could choose green or red. Also buttons are sometimes useful. On my Pioneer I have to go to a menu to pause the CD. There are six soft keys on the front for the radio presets but that's all. They have no other function which I find totally sucks because they could be useful as soft keys to pause the CD player for example. [/QUOTE]

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