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<blockquote data-quote="paulyman" data-source="post: 8923291" data-attributes="member: 694667">Recently I entered into the dsp world from old school passive crossovers, old school amps.&nbsp; I choose Helix components because from my research I found that this was quality.&nbsp;&nbsp; However I tuned everything up.&nbsp; Sound great but my over all volume seems to not be as loud as I would like. Just seems that for all the quality wiring and upgraded components I put into my new system the old simple amps and speakers were much more lound and the subs hit harder.&nbsp; What I have had a hard time understanding is the stupid gain &quot;pad&quot; setting on the helix m six dsp....&nbsp; That slider in my opinion doesnt allow me to match the source perfect and i think leaves volume on the table...&nbsp;&nbsp; I purchased the helix m six dsp and helix one X mono amp.&nbsp; I run a set of tweeters, mids and mid bass off the m six (all millie hertz) and then use line output channel I on the m six to send out signal to the one X mono amp to run two subs.&nbsp;&nbsp; My question is do I have the initial gains pad setting correct?&nbsp; or is this just a low power junk amp/dsp....&nbsp; &nbsp; See below My current format:I played 1k 0db test tone to find max clipping point of my head unit source.&nbsp; My head unit did not clip at max volume of 40 at 3.6VI played a 50hz 0db test tone and found that the head unit only would put out a clean signal at volume 33 1.6VSo I set my helix six dsp input gain electronic slider to 3.4V as this was the closest voltage using the 1k 0db test tone at full unclipped volume - should I of used the 4v gain setting rather than the 3.4v in the dsp input gain field?-Should I have used the clipping voltage of the 50hz 0DB test tone rather than setting the input gain on the dsp relative to the 1khz 0db test tone? What i am wondering is based on the way I have it set currently with the gain relative to the 1khz test tone voltage output, would not this input gain setting send a clipped signal to the one X mono amp?&nbsp;&nbsp; I am thinking now that I should of gotten a stand alone dsp and had a separate amp for the tweets, mids, and mid bass.&nbsp; I am feeling that I cant get the power that i should be getting out of this m six dsp amp.&nbsp; Its as if i am forced to set it for 50 hertz tone voltage then the other higher frequencies are not getting higher output.&nbsp; &nbsp;&nbsp; If i set the &quot;pad&quot; gain using a higher test tone then it will clip the input into the m six at lower frequencies. I am used to using old school equipment.&nbsp; So a bit confused about how to set the input gain correctly on the m six dsp when i have to also route that signal chain into another amp that is not dsp, taking care of lower frequency purpose.&nbsp; In your opinion what tools would you use and how would you setup the signal chain in my setup?/Head unit ---&gt; helix m six DSP amp -----&gt; helix one X mono amp (non dsp)&nbsp; using channel I from helix m six&nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp;&nbsp; set of tweeters&nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp;&nbsp; (2) 12&quot; subs at 1ohm&nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp;&nbsp; set of mids&nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp;&nbsp; sert of mid bass</blockquote>

[QUOTE="paulyman, post: 8923291, member: 694667"] Recently I entered into the dsp world from old school passive crossovers, old school amps. I choose Helix components because from my research I found that this was quality. However I tuned everything up. Sound great but my over all volume seems to not be as loud as I would like. Just seems that for all the quality wiring and upgraded components I put into my new system the old simple amps and speakers were much more lound and the subs hit harder. What I have had a hard time understanding is the stupid gain "pad" setting on the helix m six dsp.... That slider in my opinion doesnt allow me to match the source perfect and i think leaves volume on the table... I purchased the helix m six dsp and helix one X mono amp. I run a set of tweeters, mids and mid bass off the m six (all millie hertz) and then use line output channel I on the m six to send out signal to the one X mono amp to run two subs. My question is do I have the initial gains pad setting correct? or is this just a low power junk amp/dsp.... See below My current format: I played 1k 0db test tone to find max clipping point of my head unit source. My head unit did not clip at max volume of 40 at 3.6V I played a 50hz 0db test tone and found that the head unit only would put out a clean signal at volume 33 1.6V So I set my helix six dsp input gain electronic slider to 3.4V as this was the closest voltage using the 1k 0db test tone at full unclipped volume - should I of used the 4v gain setting rather than the 3.4v in the dsp input gain field? -Should I have used the clipping voltage of the 50hz 0DB test tone rather than setting the input gain on the dsp relative to the 1khz 0db test tone? What i am wondering is based on the way I have it set currently with the gain relative to the 1khz test tone voltage output, would not this input gain setting send a clipped signal to the one X mono amp? I am thinking now that I should of gotten a stand alone dsp and had a separate amp for the tweets, mids, and mid bass. I am feeling that I cant get the power that i should be getting out of this m six dsp amp. Its as if i am forced to set it for 50 hertz tone voltage then the other higher frequencies are not getting higher output. If i set the "pad" gain using a higher test tone then it will clip the input into the m six at lower frequencies. I am used to using old school equipment. So a bit confused about how to set the input gain correctly on the m six dsp when i have to also route that signal chain into another amp that is not dsp, taking care of lower frequency purpose. In your opinion what tools would you use and how would you setup the signal chain in my setup? / Head unit ---> helix m six DSP amp -----> helix one X mono amp (non dsp) using channel I from helix m six set of tweeters (2) 12" subs at 1ohm set of mids sert of mid bass [/QUOTE]

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