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Message: <blockquote data-quote="helotaxi" data-source="post: 532708" data-attributes="member: 550915">The 9x17 is the .380ACP the 9x18 is the 9mm Makarov and the 9x19 is the Parabellum.Taurus also acquired some of the Baretta tooling, not just the patent.  Their revlovers look very much like the older S&amp;Ws for the same reason.BTW, I wouldn't lump Norinco in with Jennings.  They made pretty much the best 1911 of the '90s.  When Colt and Springfield went to the crappy 1991 design, Norinco bought their old tooling and started producing the old weapon at a fraction of the cost.  I have one and I can attest to their quality.  The frames were very highly sought after as the basis for IPSC race guns because they would hold up to the hot loads typically used in competition where the Colt and Springfield would not.  The gun import ban made them even harder to come by.</blockquote>

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