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<blockquote data-quote="mrray13" data-source="post: 522049" data-attributes="member: 540942">so who says u NEED subs to trade? lol...it&#039;s funny how auto handguns are recoil operated (size, weight&nbsp; issues, i know) and long arms tend to be gas.&nbsp; it&#039;s the exceptions to both that really stand out..the desert eagle and H&amp;amp;K for handguns and the benelli in long arms(shotguns)..i&#039;m sure there are others, but those are the ones that make the biggest noise (no pun intended)i like the smoothness of gas operated, but the reliability of recoil..except in the benelli..i hated my benelli eagle shotgun. kicked like a mule and shot, pointed horribly...of course i believe now i had a bent barrel tube and didn&#039;t know it.and ur correct, a handgun that weighs almost as much as a small rifle, really ain&#039;t carry material...but then again in illinois, u can&#039;t carry..open or concealed.anyway....how&#039;s the shopping steve? i didn&#039;t get to today like i wanted..oh well..hehewheeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeee //content.invisioncic.com/y282845/emoticons/pullover.gif.ac2de04a20ebe8c72a715e86e00c8c0d.gif</blockquote>

[QUOTE="mrray13, post: 522049, member: 540942"] so who says u NEED subs to trade? lol... it's funny how auto handguns are recoil operated (size, weight issues, i know) and long arms tend to be gas. it's the exceptions to both that really stand out..the desert eagle and H&K for handguns and the benelli in long arms(shotguns)..i'm sure there are others, but those are the ones that make the biggest noise (no pun intended) i like the smoothness of gas operated, but the reliability of recoil..except in the benelli..i hated my benelli eagle shotgun. kicked like a mule and shot, pointed horribly...of course i believe now i had a bent barrel tube and didn't know it. and ur correct, a handgun that weighs almost as much as a small rifle, really ain't carry material...but then again in illinois, u can't carry..open or concealed. anyway....how's the shopping steve? i didn't get to today like i wanted..oh well.. hehe wheeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeee [IMG]//content.invisioncic.com/y282845/emoticons/pullover.gif.ac2de04a20ebe8c72a715e86e00c8c0d.gif[/IMG] [/QUOTE]

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