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<blockquote data-quote="zane" data-source="post: 1064001" data-attributes="member: 540617">Going to be quite a difference.&nbsp; &nbsp; One that I suspect that you will find less agreeable to that of paying more to drive a V8 powered car.How you are getting only 11mpg/town and 20mpg/hwy is a little odd though...With my most recent minor Trick Flow Upgrades to my Thunderbird, I actually get better efficiency.&nbsp;&nbsp; //content.invisioncic.com/y282845/emoticons/smile.gif.1ebc41e1811405b213edfc4622c41e27.gif&nbsp; &nbsp;&nbsp; I&#039;m about 18mpg/town and 26mpg/hwy.&nbsp; &nbsp; (Not that far off from OEM Spec!&nbsp; //content.invisioncic.com/y282845/emoticons/smile.gif.1ebc41e1811405b213edfc4622c41e27.gif&nbsp;&nbsp; )I suspect that with a little tweaking, you could get your car&#039;s efficiency up a little more, and still have the V8.It will still be a V8 though......I have a friend that just bought an 03 Tiburon with the 2.7L V6, and he is thrilled with it.&nbsp; &nbsp;&nbsp; He is used to driving a Mustang GT so this may speak to something of the abilities of the Tiburon.&nbsp; &nbsp; He now gets about 32mpg/hwy and the car easily can put you back in the seats.&nbsp; &nbsp;&nbsp; It&#039;s a pretty intense little car!Otherwise, all of the other cars that you mention do have a good track record of reliability and ok performance.If you can get passed the Focus&#039; cheap and but ugly appearance, the price tag on the TSX and the Eclipse, then all is well.I&#039;d either look into making your bird more efficient, or trying the Tiburon or Civic.Depending on how fond you are of your Thunderbird, you may also want to consider a slightly older model.An 80&#039;s Aerobird Turbo Coupe.2.3L Turbocharged 4cyl.I&#039;ve owned two, and can say that appearances are most certainly decieving with these cars.They are extremely reliable, have a superb ride quality, average about 32mpg, and easily haul a*s!Just something to think about.....&nbsp;&nbsp; //content.invisioncic.com/y282845/emoticons/wink.gif.608e3ea05f1a9f98611af0861652f8fb.gifDepending on how fond you are of your Thunderbird, you may also want to consider a slightly older model.An 80&#039;s Aerobird Turbo Coupe.2.3L Turbocharged 4cyl.I&#039;ve owned two, and can say that appearances are most certainly decieving with these cars.They are extremely reliable, have a superb ride quality, average about 32mpg, and easily haul a*s!There is quite an aftermarket following in parts and enthusiasts for these cars, plus, one can generally be purchased for well under $8k.Just something to think about.....&nbsp;&nbsp; //content.invisioncic.com/y282845/emoticons/wink.gif.608e3ea05f1a9f98611af0861652f8fb.gifI won&#039;t even touch Scion.&nbsp;&nbsp; I can&#039;t think of a more worthless and but ugly product line. //content.invisioncic.com/y282845/emoticons/tongue.gif.6130eb82179565f6db8d26d6001dcd24.gif</blockquote>

[QUOTE="zane, post: 1064001, member: 540617"] Going to be quite a difference. One that I suspect that you will find less agreeable to that of paying more to drive a V8 powered car. How you are getting only 11mpg/town and 20mpg/hwy is a little odd though... With my most recent minor Trick Flow Upgrades to my Thunderbird, I actually get better efficiency. [IMG]//content.invisioncic.com/y282845/emoticons/smile.gif.1ebc41e1811405b213edfc4622c41e27.gif[/IMG] I'm about 18mpg/town and 26mpg/hwy. (Not that far off from OEM Spec! [IMG]//content.invisioncic.com/y282845/emoticons/smile.gif.1ebc41e1811405b213edfc4622c41e27.gif[/IMG] ) I suspect that with a little tweaking, you could get your car's efficiency up a little more, and still have the V8. It will still be a V8 though...... I have a friend that just bought an 03 Tiburon with the 2.7L V6, and he is thrilled with it. He is used to driving a Mustang GT so this may speak to something of the abilities of the Tiburon. He now gets about 32mpg/hwy and the car easily can put you back in the seats. It's a pretty intense little car! Otherwise, all of the other cars that you mention do have a good track record of reliability and ok performance. If you can get passed the Focus' cheap and but ugly appearance, the price tag on the TSX and the Eclipse, then all is well. I'd either look into making your bird more efficient, or trying the Tiburon or Civic. Depending on how fond you are of your Thunderbird, you may also want to consider a slightly older model. An 80's Aerobird Turbo Coupe. 2.3L Turbocharged 4cyl. I've owned two, and can say that appearances are most certainly decieving with these cars. They are extremely reliable, have a superb ride quality, average about 32mpg, and easily haul a*s! Just something to think about..... [IMG]//content.invisioncic.com/y282845/emoticons/wink.gif.608e3ea05f1a9f98611af0861652f8fb.gif[/IMG] Depending on how fond you are of your Thunderbird, you may also want to consider a slightly older model. An 80's Aerobird Turbo Coupe. 2.3L Turbocharged 4cyl. I've owned two, and can say that appearances are most certainly decieving with these cars. They are extremely reliable, have a superb ride quality, average about 32mpg, and easily haul a*s! There is quite an aftermarket following in parts and enthusiasts for these cars, plus, one can generally be purchased for well under $8k. Just something to think about..... [IMG]//content.invisioncic.com/y282845/emoticons/wink.gif.608e3ea05f1a9f98611af0861652f8fb.gif[/IMG] I won't even touch Scion. I can't think of a more worthless and but ugly product line. [IMG]//content.invisioncic.com/y282845/emoticons/tongue.gif.6130eb82179565f6db8d26d6001dcd24.gif[/IMG] [/QUOTE]

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