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<blockquote data-quote="helotaxi" data-source="post: 2005480" data-attributes="member: 550915">What am I supposed to imply from him saying that I&#039;m new and asking for my credentials other than he only cares about post count rather than vlidity of an argument.I agreed with every one of his points too, and stated such in the thread, but you dont care to pay attention to that.&nbsp; Having a list of points still doesn&#039;t make one way WRONG if it results in a quality product.&nbsp; If you can&#039;t see that then there is no hope for you ever doing anything creative because you will be stuck forever reproducing something already done by someone else.&nbsp; That is the entirety of my point.&nbsp; That after all this you still fail to understand that there are different ways to do things and no one is inherently right or wrong for everyone astounds me.&nbsp; That someone can get their panties in such a twist about what amounts to technique and someone merely pointing out &quot;different strokes for different folks&quot; doesn&#039;t leave me with much confidence in their maturity level.I read the entire thread, both on that forum and on this one.&nbsp; That I saw his post the way I did is just a matter of perception of how he came across to me.&nbsp; Crazy didn&#039;t see it that way, fine.&nbsp; I can&#039;t know his intentions I was merely commenting on what he posted and the way it came across to me.&nbsp; That Rza saw that as an attack is pretty sad, since it would appear that epicenterdesigns didn&#039;t see it that way based on his lack of comment.&nbsp; If anyone came in looking for a fight, it was Rza and that kind of attitude makes for a very poor admin.&nbsp; He took a confrontational tone from the very beginning without even bothering to think about what I was saying.&nbsp; Much as you are doing.&nbsp; You are so into arguing that you haven&#039;t even tried to understand my point.&nbsp; Perhaps it is beyond you to understand the concept of technique and that any technique that gives the desired outcome is not wrong.&nbsp; Certain things may fall into the category of &quot;best practice&quot; but that still doesn&#039;t mean that there aren&#039;t other way to go about it.&nbsp; Show me a large group of people that go about a &quot;creative&quot; enterprise exactly the same way and I will show you a large group of poeple that are lacking in the creativity department.&nbsp; Fabricators are artists in a way.&nbsp; Every artist does hings differently.&nbsp; If they didn&#039;t it wouldn&#039;t be art.&nbsp; For one &quot;artist,&quot; regardless of experience level, to state bluntly that &quot;I do it differently and thus your way is wrong&quot; is out of line, but in no way is pointing that simple fact out an attack on a person.&nbsp; Art is all technique.&nbsp; That two techniqes are different, doesn&#039;t mean that one of them is wrong.&nbsp; That Crazy said that he would consider the advice for his next project simply means that he is still evolving his technique.&nbsp; Any person who wants to do something well learns as many different ways to do something as possible and takes elements from each different method to incorporate into his own method.&nbsp; Any good craftsman knows this.&nbsp; Any professional knows this.&nbsp; Anyone who simply accepts the technique of another as the only correct to way to go about making something lacks any creative juices of their own.&nbsp; No innovation will ever come from these people.&nbsp; They may produce a technically solid product using the assimilated method, but it will lack anything in the way of originality.&nbsp; That you fall into this latter category and are a bit sensitive about it might explain a lot.&nbsp; There&#039;s no shame in falling into this category.&nbsp; I know that my musical tlent will never amount to anything, because even though I love music, I have no creative potential in that realm.&nbsp; I&#039;ve accepted that.&nbsp; It&#039;s appears quite likely that you and Rza have limited creative potential when it comes to making things and you don&#039;t want to accept that.&nbsp; Like I said, it&#039;s nothing to be ashamed of and it&#039;s definitely nothing to get all defensive about.&nbsp; That you can&#039;t come up with a different way of going about something other than what you&#039;ve been shown doesn&#039;t mean that those ways don&#039;t exist.&nbsp; It doesn&#039;t mean that something different that what you&#039;ve seen work, won&#039;t work also.&nbsp; Neither is right or wrong, merely different.</blockquote>

[QUOTE="helotaxi, post: 2005480, member: 550915"] What am I supposed to imply from him saying that I'm new and asking for my credentials other than he only cares about post count rather than vlidity of an argument. I agreed with every one of his points too, and stated such in the thread, but you dont care to pay attention to that. Having a list of points still doesn't make one way WRONG if it results in a quality product. If you can't see that then there is no hope for you ever doing anything creative because you will be stuck forever reproducing something already done by someone else. That is the entirety of my point. That after all this you still fail to understand that there are different ways to do things and no one is inherently right or wrong for everyone astounds me. That someone can get their panties in such a twist about what amounts to technique and someone merely pointing out "different strokes for different folks" doesn't leave me with much confidence in their maturity level.I read the entire thread, both on that forum and on this one. That I saw his post the way I did is just a matter of perception of how he came across to me. Crazy didn't see it that way, fine. I can't know his intentions I was merely commenting on what he posted and the way it came across to me. That Rza saw that as an attack is pretty sad, since it would appear that epicenterdesigns didn't see it that way based on his lack of comment. If anyone came in looking for a fight, it was Rza and that kind of attitude makes for a very poor admin. He took a confrontational tone from the very beginning without even bothering to think about what I was saying. Much as you are doing. You are so into arguing that you haven't even tried to understand my point. Perhaps it is beyond you to understand the concept of technique and that any technique that gives the desired outcome is not wrong. Certain things may fall into the category of "best practice" but that still doesn't mean that there aren't other way to go about it. Show me a large group of people that go about a "creative" enterprise exactly the same way and I will show you a large group of poeple that are lacking in the creativity department. Fabricators are artists in a way. Every artist does hings differently. If they didn't it wouldn't be art. For one "artist," regardless of experience level, to state bluntly that "I do it differently and thus your way is wrong" is out of line, but in no way is pointing that simple fact out an attack on a person. Art is all technique. That two techniqes are different, doesn't mean that one of them is wrong. That Crazy said that he would consider the advice for his next project simply means that he is still evolving his technique. Any person who wants to do something well learns as many different ways to do something as possible and takes elements from each different method to incorporate into his own method. Any good craftsman knows this. Any professional knows this. Anyone who simply accepts the technique of another as the only correct to way to go about making something lacks any creative juices of their own. No innovation will ever come from these people. They may produce a technically solid product using the assimilated method, but it will lack anything in the way of originality. That you fall into this latter category and are a bit sensitive about it might explain a lot. There's no shame in falling into this category. I know that my musical tlent will never amount to anything, because even though I love music, I have no creative potential in that realm. I've accepted that. It's appears quite likely that you and Rza have limited creative potential when it comes to making things and you don't want to accept that. Like I said, it's nothing to be ashamed of and it's definitely nothing to get all defensive about. That you can't come up with a different way of going about something other than what you've been shown doesn't mean that those ways don't exist. It doesn't mean that something different that what you've seen work, won't work also. Neither is right or wrong, merely different. [/QUOTE]

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