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<blockquote data-quote="helotaxi" data-source="post: 2004800" data-attributes="member: 550915"><p>Since it appears that you never read my posts in the 20min or so before they were deleted how do you even know what I said. I never attacked anyone. dbornotdb/epicenterdesigns said nothing more than "that's not right" and I merely suggested that maybe there is more than one way to do something. If that is attacking someone, then I have proven my point, the egos over there are a bit on the fragile side. The funny thing about it was that he wasn't the one that even took issue. He probably understood what I was saying. It was the admin, who had no reason to even say anything that started shit. It was quite obvious that I was not questioning dbornotdb/epicenterdesigns's expertise but simply pointing out what should have been obvious to anyone with a bit of life experience. Rza took something the wrong way and decided that someone is only worth the number on their post count. At that point I don't think it would have mattered what I had said at that point.</p><p>If you honestly think that I have nothing better to do with my time than go and spam a site that I had hoped to actually learn something from then you really are clearly more pathetic than you seem to think that I am. And then to think that I would resort to trying to start something between two forums...grow up. Just because you would consider doing somehing of that sort doesn't mean the the rest of us are that petty. It's called venting. I was frustrated because the admin of a web forum got all butt hurt because I pointed out a simple fact and then wouldn't back down when he started crap. Based on his demonstrated lack of sound and reasonable judgement, might I suggest replacing your admin. I'm thinking he really needs a reality check.</p><p></p><p>You also obviously have no idea as to what actually happened as far as the deletion of posts goes. I made the initial comment which RZA incorrectly construed as an affront to his hero and came back with basically "who the eff are you to question anything he he says? You only have one post so you aren't anything." I reply to simply clarify that my initial post was misunderstood and both posts get immediately deleted. My final post was nothing much more than a WTF? I guess I hit a nerve with Rza when I onfronted him with irrefutable fact for which he had no comeback. The only way he thought he could save face was to ban me. If disagreeing with the admin on something that has nothing to do with the conduct of the site and ammounted to nothing more than a difference of opinion with a person suffering from a serious case of hero worship is deserving of a ban without a warning when no terms of service were violated then good riddance. Not a group I want to be associated with. I will gladly wear the ban as a badge of honor.</p><p></p><p>So you subscribe to the same line of reasoning that there is only one "right" way to design something? You obviously don't understand the concept of "design" either. Ok now we see the shaky ground on which you stand. I wasn't in any way questioning his experience or expertise, and he wasn't teaching anything and I never in any way suggested that he was wrong, in fact I agreed that his way would probably be easier, but easier and harder do not define right and wrong. Saying that something is wrong because it isn't the easiest way is a very narrow view of things and coming in to a thread and saying nothing more than "that's not the right way to do it" worded exactly that bluntly is rude at best and arrogant at worst. Being able to spot rudeness and arrogance has nothing to do with fiberglassing experience last I checked, thus me stating that my experience was beside the point, but you never say the posts so how would you know what I said... He drops into a thread and says "that's not the right way" and nothing more. He wasn't teaching anything or even making constructive criticizm. It was merely criticizm. All I suggested is that there is not one single way to do something. I don't need a ton of experience to realize that there are multiple ways to do something and get a good result. The whole concept of results are more important than process. But I guess that you are incapable of thinking for yourself, too, and can only directly reproduce something using an exact set of explicit instructions are have never heard of personal technique. I guess you are also of the opinion that every fabricator out there does everything the exact same way. If you don't understand my point then you seriously need to reevaluate your concept of how reality works.</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="helotaxi, post: 2004800, member: 550915"] Since it appears that you never read my posts in the 20min or so before they were deleted how do you even know what I said. I never attacked anyone. dbornotdb/epicenterdesigns said nothing more than "that's not right" and I merely suggested that maybe there is more than one way to do something. If that is attacking someone, then I have proven my point, the egos over there are a bit on the fragile side. The funny thing about it was that he wasn't the one that even took issue. He probably understood what I was saying. It was the admin, who had no reason to even say anything that started shit. It was quite obvious that I was not questioning dbornotdb/epicenterdesigns's expertise but simply pointing out what should have been obvious to anyone with a bit of life experience. Rza took something the wrong way and decided that someone is only worth the number on their post count. At that point I don't think it would have mattered what I had said at that point. If you honestly think that I have nothing better to do with my time than go and spam a site that I had hoped to actually learn something from then you really are clearly more pathetic than you seem to think that I am. And then to think that I would resort to trying to start something between two forums...grow up. Just because you would consider doing somehing of that sort doesn't mean the the rest of us are that petty. It's called venting. I was frustrated because the admin of a web forum got all butt hurt because I pointed out a simple fact and then wouldn't back down when he started crap. Based on his demonstrated lack of sound and reasonable judgement, might I suggest replacing your admin. I'm thinking he really needs a reality check. You also obviously have no idea as to what actually happened as far as the deletion of posts goes. I made the initial comment which RZA incorrectly construed as an affront to his hero and came back with basically "who the eff are you to question anything he he says? You only have one post so you aren't anything." I reply to simply clarify that my initial post was misunderstood and both posts get immediately deleted. My final post was nothing much more than a WTF? I guess I hit a nerve with Rza when I onfronted him with irrefutable fact for which he had no comeback. The only way he thought he could save face was to ban me. If disagreeing with the admin on something that has nothing to do with the conduct of the site and ammounted to nothing more than a difference of opinion with a person suffering from a serious case of hero worship is deserving of a ban without a warning when no terms of service were violated then good riddance. Not a group I want to be associated with. I will gladly wear the ban as a badge of honor. So you subscribe to the same line of reasoning that there is only one "right" way to design something? You obviously don't understand the concept of "design" either. Ok now we see the shaky ground on which you stand. I wasn't in any way questioning his experience or expertise, and he wasn't teaching anything and I never in any way suggested that he was wrong, in fact I agreed that his way would probably be easier, but easier and harder do not define right and wrong. Saying that something is wrong because it isn't the easiest way is a very narrow view of things and coming in to a thread and saying nothing more than "that's not the right way to do it" worded exactly that bluntly is rude at best and arrogant at worst. Being able to spot rudeness and arrogance has nothing to do with fiberglassing experience last I checked, thus me stating that my experience was beside the point, but you never say the posts so how would you know what I said... He drops into a thread and says "that's not the right way" and nothing more. He wasn't teaching anything or even making constructive criticizm. It was merely criticizm. All I suggested is that there is not one single way to do something. I don't need a ton of experience to realize that there are multiple ways to do something and get a good result. The whole concept of results are more important than process. But I guess that you are incapable of thinking for yourself, too, and can only directly reproduce something using an exact set of explicit instructions are have never heard of personal technique. I guess you are also of the opinion that every fabricator out there does everything the exact same way. If you don't understand my point then you seriously need to reevaluate your concept of how reality works. [/QUOTE]
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