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<blockquote data-quote="Doxquzme" data-source="post: 8923311" data-attributes="member: 689267"><p>I have experience with these drivers - and here's the catch -</p><p></p><p>Exceptionally revealing, as any component at this level should be.</p><p></p><p>That means they will bring out the utmost stellar best or the worst anomalies, an exceptionally good or very poor install and tune can give you.</p><p></p><p>It's the weakest link, and anything you skimp on, the HU, the DSP, the installation, tuning, deadening, all of these things need to be on a par with the drivers; otherwise, it's lipstick on a pig.</p><p></p><p>The Frak tweeter can articulate things, like the bell of a crash or ride that sounds like you're sitting in front af a live performance, or, in the wrong location or tuned incorrectly, will ring madly at 18k, which will cause listening fatigue, giving one the impression of harshness when really it's that they are revealing the limits of the installation.</p><p></p><p>ON THAT NOTE -</p><p></p><p>There are definitely options for completely active amplification of component sets that do not use the passive crossovers; something I've never quite understood in the 40 years I've used Focal drivers, why anything at that price comes with a passive crossover is beyond me.</p><p></p><p>No crossovers here, and at $999, half the price, and both these JBLs incorporate a beryllium tweeter, that's a HUGE plus.</p><p></p><p>[URL unfurl="true"]https://www.soundoftristate.com/jbl-arena-x-36be?srsltid=AfmBOopqjBSTrtyZ9j9NWWyOnYb7qVwdI48yt51bXr8KLzwPZG6EafWG[/URL]</p><p></p><p>You would be hard pressed to better these at twice the price: $739.00</p><p></p><p>[URL unfurl="true"]https://stereointegrity.com/product/m25-mkii-m3-tm65-mkiv-combo/[/URL]</p><p></p><p>So it comes down to the level of effort into the installation and tuning, the investment in the other pieces of equipment that will determine if the money spent on the diminishing returns that the $2k+ componts have to offer, will warrant the price difference.</p><p></p><p>Decisions, decisions... <img src="data:image/gif;base64,R0lGODlhAQABAIAAAAAAAP///yH5BAEAAAAALAAAAAABAAEAAAIBRAA7" class="smilie smilie--sprite smilie--sprite27" alt=":giggle:" title="Giggle :giggle:" loading="lazy" data-shortname=":giggle:" /></p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="Doxquzme, post: 8923311, member: 689267"] I have experience with these drivers - and here's the catch - Exceptionally revealing, as any component at this level should be. That means they will bring out the utmost stellar best or the worst anomalies, an exceptionally good or very poor install and tune can give you. It's the weakest link, and anything you skimp on, the HU, the DSP, the installation, tuning, deadening, all of these things need to be on a par with the drivers; otherwise, it's lipstick on a pig. The Frak tweeter can articulate things, like the bell of a crash or ride that sounds like you're sitting in front af a live performance, or, in the wrong location or tuned incorrectly, will ring madly at 18k, which will cause listening fatigue, giving one the impression of harshness when really it's that they are revealing the limits of the installation. ON THAT NOTE - There are definitely options for completely active amplification of component sets that do not use the passive crossovers; something I've never quite understood in the 40 years I've used Focal drivers, why anything at that price comes with a passive crossover is beyond me. No crossovers here, and at $999, half the price, and both these JBLs incorporate a beryllium tweeter, that's a HUGE plus. [URL unfurl="true"]https://www.soundoftristate.com/jbl-arena-x-36be?srsltid=AfmBOopqjBSTrtyZ9j9NWWyOnYb7qVwdI48yt51bXr8KLzwPZG6EafWG[/URL] You would be hard pressed to better these at twice the price: $739.00 [URL unfurl="true"]https://stereointegrity.com/product/m25-mkii-m3-tm65-mkiv-combo/[/URL] So it comes down to the level of effort into the installation and tuning, the investment in the other pieces of equipment that will determine if the money spent on the diminishing returns that the $2k+ componts have to offer, will warrant the price difference. Decisions, decisions... :giggle: [/QUOTE]
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