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Message: <blockquote data-quote="josh99ta" data-source="post: 379199" data-attributes="member: 545886">Sir, please refrain from addressing me anymore in this thread unless you decide to start talking sense and stop talking out of your ***. I dont even know enough to scratch the surface in the performance world, but I do know what I know, and I know when to keep my mouth shut. You'd be wise to learn from that. Onto the lesson son...1. You can turbo anything, not just a four banger. There are turbo LS1s out there running under one bar of boost just like you could do on an import, and they are full weight machines (3900 lbs LS1Motorsports car comes to mind) running 9.89 at 144 MPH. Dang V8, dumbestic outdated technology. I guess that sucks huh?2. Secondly, do you even know WTF you're talking about with DSMs? I know enough to get by on them, and obviously you've never heard of the MASSIVE crankwalk issues they've had once you start putting the boost on. You seriously need to read up on that before you go praising the DSM. Dont get me wrong, I want a Talon TSi just to have fun in, awesome cars, but they are far from flawless. About the only "bulletproof" engine out there is a Supra engine and maybe a few others, they are just set up for boost from the factory, but very VERY few.3. Gas gussling, tell it to the M6 heads and cam LS1 guys who are still turning in OVER 30 MPG on the interstate. Talked to any of them lately? Really? Didn't think so. I know and am friends with guys like this, who have a substantial amount of mods into their V8 and still turn in great MPG at the pump. It's all in the tuning buddy, as is mostly the case. My automatic V8 is only getting 1 MPG worse than my best friend's 5 speed Integra GSR (with your beloved B18C1 in there). Want to explain that to me? Again, go back to my previous post and see where I'm talking about volumetric efficiency. Any NA motor, four banger, six, or V8, you're only going to achieve about 85% at best. But you throw forced induction in the mix and there you go, there is your efficiency. It has nothing to do with HP per Litre.FYI I used to be heavy into the import scene before all the Fast &amp; Furious hype started up and it became the "thing" to do. I know a little about that stuff too, you aren't going to pull any wool over my eyes. For anything that you can say, "give me turbo" or "give me nitrous" you can say the same thing for a V8. Want to talk MPG, I can to. Want to pull out some more stuff like "y0 dawg, my m4d tight H0nDa woulD poWn your V8 In the tWisTIes." Game over. Thanks for playing. Come back any time, as long as you bring a real arguement with you, not some stupid engine code that people on the internet told you was awesome./end rantAlso, on the handling thing, I did say lighter is better, but there are always exceptions to the rule, always. Best case I can think of is BMW M5. Amazing car, front engine V8. Just like a four banger having to have much more engineering to achieve what a properly designed V8 can with equal mods, so can a heavier car achieve what a lighter car can, but it's going to take alot more work. Kinda funny how those things work back to back. But another thing to note are the modern day V8s are grossly biased to the front in weight distribution, most of the time you'll see maybe 55/45 weight distribution biased at MOST in a properly setup car. But alas, the smaller cars take less power to get moving and are better handling in most cases, and in most cases are superior. Also keep in mind though that the car is also only as good as the driver. But in general, I agree with you paikiah. You got your stuff straight buddy //content.invisioncic.com/y282845/emoticons/wink.gif.608e3ea05f1a9f98611af0861652f8fb.gif Keep up the good work.</blockquote>

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