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<blockquote data-quote="joshpoints" data-source="post: 470702" data-attributes="member: 546465">Here&#039;s what I don&#039;t get.&nbsp; Iraq is a win win situation.&nbsp; So Bush says he has received intelligence that Iraq is a danger.&nbsp; So let&#039;s say that he was given information that was not that accurate.&nbsp; Why blame Bush?&nbsp; Everyone agreed after hearing the info that we should go in.&nbsp; I think rather than blame Bush we should say hey, maybe our intelligence isn&#039;t as accurate or up to date as we think.&nbsp; But look at it from another standpoint.&nbsp; According to records he had weapons.&nbsp; We found some chemical weapons, not nearly as much as we thought we would but we did.&nbsp; Also remember it has been estimated that he has taken over 500,000 lives.&nbsp; So we got saddam out, which I think is rather impressive.&nbsp; THis saved some lives.&nbsp; Next we find the oil for food program was not working as planned as saddam was not getting the food to the people.&nbsp; I can&#039;t remember the exact details of the next statement but it seems like he had a pipeline that we didn&#039;t know about where he was selling some oil for money.&nbsp; Ofcourse the money was not going to the people.&nbsp; The power was going primarily to baghdad so the outskirts received little electricity.&nbsp; More people have electricity and water.&nbsp; Both are being spread more equally among the people.&nbsp; The people of Iraq are now being given a huge oppertunity to change their nation.So call me optimistic, but I didn&#039;t see much to lose in going into Iraq.I will say I didn&#039;t like the way Bush fought the war.&nbsp; He was entirely too soft.I do like the plan of marshall law.As I believe someone said earlier,&nbsp; I have never seen anyone get blame for so many things.&nbsp; Some soldiers behaved incorrectly.&nbsp; Bush gets blamed.&nbsp; I don&#039;t see the logic.&nbsp; That&#039;s like a police officer abusing his power and then people wanting the governor of the state to be kicked out.I will say Bush&nbsp; has gotten me very pissed off in his stance on certain things and the way he has handled certain things, but I don&#039;t believe he has done anything that&nbsp; deserves the worst president ever.&nbsp; He&#039;s had a really hard term.&nbsp; He&#039;s constantly getting bashed.&nbsp; The economy was tanking as he took office 9/11 happens and he has to decide how to straighten out the economy and what he should do with 9/11.&nbsp; 9/11 has never happened to america.&nbsp; The military wasn&#039;t attacked but rather the citizens of the country were.&nbsp; Right now we are taking out terrorists that are fighting against us in Iraq and yet americans are pissed.&nbsp; We are taking out people that are a danger to all civilized nations that don&#039;t want to follow the islamic radicals and nations are pissed off.9/11 was planned well before Bush took office but hey let&#039;s give him all the blame.&nbsp; I&#039;d say we got soft.&nbsp; We allowed the terrorist to do their thing and it finally came back and bit us.&nbsp; We must improve intelligence and we will always be fighting against terrorist for as long as the country is standing, unless we decide to just let terrorist go.&nbsp; Then we&#039;ll have a nation that has bombs and deaths constantly like the middle east.</blockquote>

[QUOTE="joshpoints, post: 470702, member: 546465"] Here's what I don't get. Iraq is a win win situation. So Bush says he has received intelligence that Iraq is a danger. So let's say that he was given information that was not that accurate. Why blame Bush? Everyone agreed after hearing the info that we should go in. I think rather than blame Bush we should say hey, maybe our intelligence isn't as accurate or up to date as we think. But look at it from another standpoint. According to records he had weapons. We found some chemical weapons, not nearly as much as we thought we would but we did. Also remember it has been estimated that he has taken over 500,000 lives. So we got saddam out, which I think is rather impressive. THis saved some lives. Next we find the oil for food program was not working as planned as saddam was not getting the food to the people. I can't remember the exact details of the next statement but it seems like he had a pipeline that we didn't know about where he was selling some oil for money. Ofcourse the money was not going to the people. The power was going primarily to baghdad so the outskirts received little electricity. More people have electricity and water. Both are being spread more equally among the people. The people of Iraq are now being given a huge oppertunity to change their nation. So call me optimistic, but I didn't see much to lose in going into Iraq. I will say I didn't like the way Bush fought the war. He was entirely too soft. I do like the plan of marshall law. As I believe someone said earlier, I have never seen anyone get blame for so many things. Some soldiers behaved incorrectly. Bush gets blamed. I don't see the logic. That's like a police officer abusing his power and then people wanting the governor of the state to be kicked out. I will say Bush has gotten me very pissed off in his stance on certain things and the way he has handled certain things, but I don't believe he has done anything that deserves the worst president ever. He's had a really hard term. He's constantly getting bashed. The economy was tanking as he took office 9/11 happens and he has to decide how to straighten out the economy and what he should do with 9/11. 9/11 has never happened to america. The military wasn't attacked but rather the citizens of the country were. Right now we are taking out terrorists that are fighting against us in Iraq and yet americans are pissed. We are taking out people that are a danger to all civilized nations that don't want to follow the islamic radicals and nations are pissed off. 9/11 was planned well before Bush took office but hey let's give him all the blame. I'd say we got soft. We allowed the terrorist to do their thing and it finally came back and bit us. We must improve intelligence and we will always be fighting against terrorist for as long as the country is standing, unless we decide to just let terrorist go. Then we'll have a nation that has bombs and deaths constantly like the middle east. [/QUOTE]

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