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<blockquote data-quote="Prowler573" data-source="post: 1895430" data-attributes="member: 561023"><p><strong>ss3079~</strong> Thanks for moving this to an apprpriate place. //content.invisioncic.com/y282845/emoticons/thumbsup.gif.3287b36ca96645a13a43aff531f37f02.gif</p><p></p><p><strong>Bimma</strong>,</p><p></p><p>You're always such a naysayer when anything touching on this topic comes up. Why is that? Have you been burned incredibly bad and consequently harbor some unresolved bitterness about online trading in general? I have made no claims that my thread contains the "Be All, End All" method of keeping yourself from getting scammed. It <strong><em>is</em></strong>, however, some common sense information that potentially hasn't occurred to some as of yet for various reasons. It is garnered from my own personal online experiences, a good bit of time spent on the eBay discussion boards, and a few other resources that serve me well in my goings-on day to day on the interweb.</p><p></p><p>Nothing you do will prove to be a perfect system and I am happy to both recognize and admit that. That doesn't mean since we cannot eliminate scammers altogether that we shouldn't make efforts to minimize their being successful as much as we possibly can ~ both on an individual basis as well as together as a group. It is to that latter end that my efforts in this thread are focused.</p><p></p><p>So, to respond to your post:</p><p></p><p>True and true. Let me reiterate ~ these tips are in no way meant to get rid of scamming altogether but if it in any way reduces the chances of it? Then I, for one, am all for it. Why wouldn't you be? Please don't come at me with that tired story about being an inconvenience for an honest seller. I've already trounced that soundly in the mud. An extra minute or two (literally) at the outside is no inconvenience if it helps you to make that sale. /story</p><p>Paranoia, in limited amounts, can serve a person well. In the inordinately large amounts with which you are apparently afflicted, however, it makes for a dismal existence. Everyone has to start somewhere, bimma. Once you had <strong>Zero</strong> feedback on eBay. Think back to that very first transaction on eBay ~ did the feedback you left for your trading partner become inconsequential because you had none yourself? That is lunacy, dude. You are entitled to your opinion as is everyone else. Mine is that your point of view in that regard is more than a bit silly.</p><p>Yes, dishonest things happen on eBay. They happen here. They happen everywhere. The underlying point is that the transactions that end positively far outweigh the number of bad deals here and elsewhere. The bad ones simply get better press because those are the ones that shouldn't have happened. In large part no one really pays any attention to those deals that conclude as they should have.</p><p></p><p>This bit I agree with completely. //content.invisioncic.com/y282845/emoticons/smile.gif.1ebc41e1811405b213edfc4622c41e27.gif</p><p>If your grandma didn't tell you that at some point then she's among the minority of grandmothers, I'd say. //content.invisioncic.com/y282845/emoticons/biggrin.gif.d71a5d36fcbab170f2364c9f2e3946cb.gif And thank you. I know this isn't going to <strong>stop</strong> anything completely - but if anything I've said helps someone to keep from getting screwed even once then I have accomplished my goal. Maybe something I've posted <em>will</em> help someone, at least once, to <em>having</em> to learn the hard way.</p><p>Nope, it isn't. It only took me burning my hand once to learn not to reach up on the stove when that knob on the front of it was turned at an odd angle. //content.invisioncic.com/y282845/emoticons/wink.gif.608e3ea05f1a9f98611af0861652f8fb.gif Others take a few more times before they get it...</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="Prowler573, post: 1895430, member: 561023"] [B]ss3079~[/B] Thanks for moving this to an apprpriate place. [IMG]//content.invisioncic.com/y282845/emoticons/thumbsup.gif.3287b36ca96645a13a43aff531f37f02.gif[/IMG] [B]Bimma[/B], You're always such a naysayer when anything touching on this topic comes up. Why is that? Have you been burned incredibly bad and consequently harbor some unresolved bitterness about online trading in general? I have made no claims that my thread contains the "Be All, End All" method of keeping yourself from getting scammed. It [B][I]is[/I][/B], however, some common sense information that potentially hasn't occurred to some as of yet for various reasons. It is garnered from my own personal online experiences, a good bit of time spent on the eBay discussion boards, and a few other resources that serve me well in my goings-on day to day on the interweb. Nothing you do will prove to be a perfect system and I am happy to both recognize and admit that. That doesn't mean since we cannot eliminate scammers altogether that we shouldn't make efforts to minimize their being successful as much as we possibly can ~ both on an individual basis as well as together as a group. It is to that latter end that my efforts in this thread are focused. So, to respond to your post: True and true. Let me reiterate ~ these tips are in no way meant to get rid of scamming altogether but if it in any way reduces the chances of it? Then I, for one, am all for it. Why wouldn't you be? Please don't come at me with that tired story about being an inconvenience for an honest seller. I've already trounced that soundly in the mud. An extra minute or two (literally) at the outside is no inconvenience if it helps you to make that sale. /story Paranoia, in limited amounts, can serve a person well. In the inordinately large amounts with which you are apparently afflicted, however, it makes for a dismal existence. Everyone has to start somewhere, bimma. Once you had [B]Zero[/B] feedback on eBay. Think back to that very first transaction on eBay ~ did the feedback you left for your trading partner become inconsequential because you had none yourself? That is lunacy, dude. You are entitled to your opinion as is everyone else. Mine is that your point of view in that regard is more than a bit silly. Yes, dishonest things happen on eBay. They happen here. They happen everywhere. The underlying point is that the transactions that end positively far outweigh the number of bad deals here and elsewhere. The bad ones simply get better press because those are the ones that shouldn't have happened. In large part no one really pays any attention to those deals that conclude as they should have. This bit I agree with completely. [IMG]//content.invisioncic.com/y282845/emoticons/smile.gif.1ebc41e1811405b213edfc4622c41e27.gif[/IMG] If your grandma didn't tell you that at some point then she's among the minority of grandmothers, I'd say. [IMG]//content.invisioncic.com/y282845/emoticons/biggrin.gif.d71a5d36fcbab170f2364c9f2e3946cb.gif[/IMG] And thank you. I know this isn't going to [B]stop[/B] anything completely - but if anything I've said helps someone to keep from getting screwed even once then I have accomplished my goal. Maybe something I've posted [I]will[/I] help someone, at least once, to [I]having[/I] to learn the hard way. Nope, it isn't. It only took me burning my hand once to learn not to reach up on the stove when that knob on the front of it was turned at an odd angle. [IMG]//content.invisioncic.com/y282845/emoticons/wink.gif.608e3ea05f1a9f98611af0861652f8fb.gif[/IMG] Others take a few more times before they get it... [/QUOTE]
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