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<blockquote data-quote="mastershake575" data-source="post: 8713627" data-attributes="member: 665251"><p>I had the same issue back when I had a Honda. Honda has the ELD (electronic load detector) which basically tells the alternator to charge at a lower voltage depending on the use in order to save on gas mileage.</p><p></p><p>Alot of newer cars are using a voltage limiter similiar to the ELD but Honda was the mainstream pioneers of it (they've had it since the early 90s).</p><p></p><p>In TCs case it's not an issue because the moment you turn the headlights on the ELD kicks in and tells the alternator to charge at full power. ELD is only an issue if your driving with absolute nothing on (no headlights, no dash lights, no a/c).</p><p></p><p>I contacted every since aftermarket alternator company and Singer alternator was the only person who offered a Honda alternator with the bypass (had to option to buy a highoutput alternator with the bypass or simply buy the wiring adapter from him and keep my old alt). The bypass basically tricked the stock sense wire into always thinking the car needed a full load</p><p></p><p> Agreed. You can't be trying to pull over 150 amps of current when your car doesn't even have half of that available. You gotta create power if you want power (I remember the difference between my Honda sound system which was simliar power to TC's was night and day the moment I replaced the alternator). It sounded like I went from a single 12 to 3x12s</p><p></p><p>You can use the highest quality wires and have a nice battery but it won't matter, and the end of the day there's no way your sub is even seeing half power (possible not even 1/3rd power)</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="mastershake575, post: 8713627, member: 665251"] I had the same issue back when I had a Honda. Honda has the ELD (electronic load detector) which basically tells the alternator to charge at a lower voltage depending on the use in order to save on gas mileage. Alot of newer cars are using a voltage limiter similiar to the ELD but Honda was the mainstream pioneers of it (they've had it since the early 90s). In TCs case it's not an issue because the moment you turn the headlights on the ELD kicks in and tells the alternator to charge at full power. ELD is only an issue if your driving with absolute nothing on (no headlights, no dash lights, no a/c). I contacted every since aftermarket alternator company and Singer alternator was the only person who offered a Honda alternator with the bypass (had to option to buy a highoutput alternator with the bypass or simply buy the wiring adapter from him and keep my old alt). The bypass basically tricked the stock sense wire into always thinking the car needed a full load Agreed. You can't be trying to pull over 150 amps of current when your car doesn't even have half of that available. You gotta create power if you want power (I remember the difference between my Honda sound system which was simliar power to TC's was night and day the moment I replaced the alternator). It sounded like I went from a single 12 to 3x12s You can use the highest quality wires and have a nice battery but it won't matter, and the end of the day there's no way your sub is even seeing half power (possible not even 1/3rd power) [/QUOTE]
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