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<blockquote data-quote="audioholic" data-source="post: 2859573" data-attributes="member: 549629"><p>Do you have any idea how many subs have come along that were gonna knock the W7 down a rung? Guess what... its still the sub to be knocled down all these years later. Now eD of all companies, with its look-alike design, is gonna sweep the industry and significantly dig into the W7's market share? Forgive me if I dont hold my breath. //content.invisioncic.com/y282845/emoticons/wink.gif.608e3ea05f1a9f98611af0861652f8fb.gif</p><p></p><p>And Im sorry, but again eD is anything but 'well respected', unless you only hang out on their message board. I think it would be closer to say eD is generally hated than respected. Most of their customers these days are likely people like you, who dont realize the deceitful history the company has had (and continues to this day imo), and want to build it up as 'respectable' because you use their products.</p><p></p><p>eD's gonna need to show better quality, and MUCH better ethics for a good long time before I even consider buying from them again. Their new 120mil butyl mat? Sub quality, as per independant tests have already shown. This new sub? Gee, looks almost EXACTLY like a W7. eD couldn't come up with a new, original and successful idea even if it spewed from their posterior in turd form.</p><p></p><p>Let me inform you then. //content.invisioncic.com/y282845/emoticons/wink.gif.608e3ea05f1a9f98611af0861652f8fb.gif</p><p>eD, and its owner Ben Milne, were caught red handed lying about their previous 'butyl rubber based' mat. Problem was, it wasn't butyl rubber based as eD claimed, it was the old asphault garbage. eD refused to admit it only until AFTER third-party testing showed without a doubt that it was a lie. Even the advertised thickness of the stuff was over exgarrated. Ben's excuses ranged from 'oops I measured thickness with the paper backing on, silly me' to 'oops, we dont really do QC checks on the mat, we just label it and send it out... dont blame us!'. The man is either incompetent, or an out and out liar. My guess, a combination.</p><p></p><p>Now this new 120mil mat, clearly made of inferior butyl rubber (when compared to 'real' brands like secondskin) and the advertised mylar/alum layer is *surprise surprise* exgarrated (yet again).</p><p></p><p>Then there was the whole cone breakage issue with dozens (and dozens and dozens) of returned subs that received 1) no refund, and 2) no new sub.</p><p></p><p>Yeah, you're right, eD is one respectable company alright. //content.invisioncic.com/y282845/emoticons/wink.gif.608e3ea05f1a9f98611af0861652f8fb.gif</p><p></p><p>Not trying to be a dick, but do some research before you start using terms like respectable or good reputation. eD has/is neither.</p><p></p><p>And this is coming from someone who use to love eD... when they were new. But I can only stand so much deceit for personal gain from one company/man before I start shouting BS.</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="audioholic, post: 2859573, member: 549629"] Do you have any idea how many subs have come along that were gonna knock the W7 down a rung? Guess what... its still the sub to be knocled down all these years later. Now eD of all companies, with its look-alike design, is gonna sweep the industry and significantly dig into the W7's market share? Forgive me if I dont hold my breath. [IMG]//content.invisioncic.com/y282845/emoticons/wink.gif.608e3ea05f1a9f98611af0861652f8fb.gif[/IMG] And Im sorry, but again eD is anything but 'well respected', unless you only hang out on their message board. I think it would be closer to say eD is generally hated than respected. Most of their customers these days are likely people like you, who dont realize the deceitful history the company has had (and continues to this day imo), and want to build it up as 'respectable' because you use their products. eD's gonna need to show better quality, and MUCH better ethics for a good long time before I even consider buying from them again. Their new 120mil butyl mat? Sub quality, as per independant tests have already shown. This new sub? Gee, looks almost EXACTLY like a W7. eD couldn't come up with a new, original and successful idea even if it spewed from their posterior in turd form. Let me inform you then. [IMG]//content.invisioncic.com/y282845/emoticons/wink.gif.608e3ea05f1a9f98611af0861652f8fb.gif[/IMG] eD, and its owner Ben Milne, were caught red handed lying about their previous 'butyl rubber based' mat. Problem was, it wasn't butyl rubber based as eD claimed, it was the old asphault garbage. eD refused to admit it only until AFTER third-party testing showed without a doubt that it was a lie. Even the advertised thickness of the stuff was over exgarrated. Ben's excuses ranged from 'oops I measured thickness with the paper backing on, silly me' to 'oops, we dont really do QC checks on the mat, we just label it and send it out... dont blame us!'. The man is either incompetent, or an out and out liar. My guess, a combination. Now this new 120mil mat, clearly made of inferior butyl rubber (when compared to 'real' brands like secondskin) and the advertised mylar/alum layer is *surprise surprise* exgarrated (yet again). Then there was the whole cone breakage issue with dozens (and dozens and dozens) of returned subs that received 1) no refund, and 2) no new sub. Yeah, you're right, eD is one respectable company alright. [IMG]//content.invisioncic.com/y282845/emoticons/wink.gif.608e3ea05f1a9f98611af0861652f8fb.gif[/IMG] Not trying to be a dick, but do some research before you start using terms like respectable or good reputation. eD has/is neither. And this is coming from someone who use to love eD... when they were new. But I can only stand so much deceit for personal gain from one company/man before I start shouting BS. [/QUOTE]
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