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<blockquote data-quote="Rudy" data-source="post: 3942291" data-attributes="member: 568035"><p>I haven't used FatMat in a car because I just wouldn't do that. I have handled plenty of it. I have seen photographs of its failure and have spoken to dozens of people for whom it has failed. I have spoken to many people who like you, insisted that it was fine only to come back to me the following summer when it failed. Every summer it goes through the risk increases. It may never fail, but it can easily go through one or two summers only to melt during the third, ruining carpet upholstery, etc.</p><p></p><p>Making a comparison based on price per square foot is absurd. You need multiple layers of FatMat just to match the mass of a single layer of these other products. Beyond that, butyl damps vibrations through viscoelasticity, asphalt does not - butyl is significantly more effective per unit of mass. If you need 200 sq. ft. of FatMat to get the job done, 50 or 60 of a decent sound deadener will do an equivalent job. Not all samples smell and not all people have the same sensitivities. Asphalt still outgases toxic fumes.</p><p></p><p>You are endorsing a product that is toxic, requires more weight and work to install and will save little or no money while presenting a significant risk of doing permanent damage to your car. Are you willing to guarantee the product if people follow your ill-informed advice and have a disastrous result? I doubt it since not even FatMat is willing to.</p><p></p><p>You may have had good luck. Saying FatMat is a good choice because it worked for you makes as much sense as endorsing cigarette smoking because you knew a guy who smoked a pack a day and lived to be 100. Beyond that, I challenge you to find a single difference between FatMat and Peel &amp; Seal. The company that is now selling FatMat is a roofing supplier who sell MFM products - the makers of Peel &amp; Seal. Even if you want to ignore all of the risks, the poor performance and poor economy of using an asphalt roofing product in a car, how can you in good conscience encourage people to pay a premium for the exact same thing they can buy for less at Home Depot just because somebody has stamped a blue logo on it?</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="Rudy, post: 3942291, member: 568035"] I haven't used FatMat in a car because I just wouldn't do that. I have handled plenty of it. I have seen photographs of its failure and have spoken to dozens of people for whom it has failed. I have spoken to many people who like you, insisted that it was fine only to come back to me the following summer when it failed. Every summer it goes through the risk increases. It may never fail, but it can easily go through one or two summers only to melt during the third, ruining carpet upholstery, etc. Making a comparison based on price per square foot is absurd. You need multiple layers of FatMat just to match the mass of a single layer of these other products. Beyond that, butyl damps vibrations through viscoelasticity, asphalt does not - butyl is significantly more effective per unit of mass. If you need 200 sq. ft. of FatMat to get the job done, 50 or 60 of a decent sound deadener will do an equivalent job. Not all samples smell and not all people have the same sensitivities. Asphalt still outgases toxic fumes. You are endorsing a product that is toxic, requires more weight and work to install and will save little or no money while presenting a significant risk of doing permanent damage to your car. Are you willing to guarantee the product if people follow your ill-informed advice and have a disastrous result? I doubt it since not even FatMat is willing to. You may have had good luck. Saying FatMat is a good choice because it worked for you makes as much sense as endorsing cigarette smoking because you knew a guy who smoked a pack a day and lived to be 100. Beyond that, I challenge you to find a single difference between FatMat and Peel & Seal. The company that is now selling FatMat is a roofing supplier who sell MFM products - the makers of Peel & Seal. Even if you want to ignore all of the risks, the poor performance and poor economy of using an asphalt roofing product in a car, how can you in good conscience encourage people to pay a premium for the exact same thing they can buy for less at Home Depot just because somebody has stamped a blue logo on it? [/QUOTE]
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