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<blockquote data-quote="tjamz" data-source="post: 7908184" data-attributes="member: 571731">I&#039;ll fill in the back story here.&nbsp; I had some complaints that I addressed privately w/ George Wu and Randy (the national account manager.... I have no issues with Randy, he&#039;s just doing his job here).&nbsp; In there I complained that we never get any two woofers that look the same (different cones, different color baskets, etc...) and that it sometimes feels like they just slap whatever they have together whether they are the right parts or not and just ship them out.Brought up a specific case where we were working on putting together a finals vehicle and we needed 4 more AP-8&#039;s to go with the 4 we already had, George assured me that he could custom build some MA-8&#039;s that would work in the same enclosure at the same time as the AP-8&#039;s (never mind that just about everything except the basket is different about them).&nbsp; I told him to never mind and we will rebuild the entire system with something else.... but I ordered a pair of the &quot;enhanced&quot; MA-8&#039;s just to try them out.&nbsp; Just for shits we went and put one of the MA-8&#039;s in a system that had a pair of AP-8&#039;s in it already.... low and behold the system got quieter by a couple dB and was WAAAAAY more non-linear.&nbsp; I mentioned in the email that I told him that this is exactly what would happen and that I thought the vendors were supposed to be teaching the dealers not the other way around...I also griped that it&#039;s hard to sell their line if their entire Apocalypse line is out of stock for 3 months at a time.Basically I pointed out some issues I was having with their organization and asked what their plans were to remedy the situation going forward.Next thing you know I get an email and a paypal refund saying they dropped Trafik Jamz as a dealer... I called to see what was up with that and they said well dude, we can process your order but you get zero warranty on it...Long story short:&nbsp; George Wu can go f#ck himself.</blockquote>

[QUOTE="tjamz, post: 7908184, member: 571731"] I'll fill in the back story here. I had some complaints that I addressed privately w/ George Wu and Randy (the national account manager.... I have no issues with Randy, he's just doing his job here). In there I complained that we never get any two woofers that look the same (different cones, different color baskets, etc...) and that it sometimes feels like they just slap whatever they have together whether they are the right parts or not and just ship them out. Brought up a specific case where we were working on putting together a finals vehicle and we needed 4 more AP-8's to go with the 4 we already had, George assured me that he could custom build some MA-8's that would work in the same enclosure at the same time as the AP-8's (never mind that just about everything except the basket is different about them). I told him to never mind and we will rebuild the entire system with something else.... but I ordered a pair of the "enhanced" MA-8's just to try them out. Just for shits we went and put one of the MA-8's in a system that had a pair of AP-8's in it already.... low and behold the system got quieter by a couple dB and was WAAAAAY more non-linear. I mentioned in the email that I told him that this is exactly what would happen and that I thought the vendors were supposed to be teaching the dealers not the other way around... I also griped that it's hard to sell their line if their entire Apocalypse line is out of stock for 3 months at a time. Basically I pointed out some issues I was having with their organization and asked what their plans were to remedy the situation going forward. Next thing you know I get an email and a paypal refund saying they dropped Trafik Jamz as a dealer... I called to see what was up with that and they said well dude, we can process your order but you get zero warranty on it... Long story short: George Wu can go f#ck himself. [/QUOTE]

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