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<blockquote data-quote="IamDeMan" data-source="post: 3704316" data-attributes="member: 557673">My only point in the beginning that you first claimed BS on me about was distortion needing to be 10% or more to hear it in the substage. You said that you could. Now you tell me you don&#039;t know because you didn&#039;t measure. While I will admit I have never claim to have measured, I at least pulled up a test that confirms what I said.&nbsp; Your claim to say you can hear less than 10% distortion won&#039;t deter me from saying using your ears to set a sub gain is pissing in the wind.Also you are putting more words in my mouth. I NEVER SAID DISTORTION BESIDES MECHANICAL CAN&#039;T BE HEARD. Please go back and get reading comprehension. My whole point is that you can&#039;t hear a clipped signal until it is introducing A LOT of distortion. My reasoning is backed by the link I provided.In most cases though you are more likely to overdrive the sub mechanically and get mechanical noise before you get to the point of hearing distortion introduced from the amp. That was my reasoning for ever mentioning mechanical limits. I never said distortion ONLY comes from going beyond physical limits.</blockquote>

[QUOTE="IamDeMan, post: 3704316, member: 557673"] My only point in the beginning that you first claimed BS on me about was distortion needing to be 10% or more to hear it in the substage. You said that you could. Now you tell me you don't know because you didn't measure. While I will admit I have never claim to have measured, I at least pulled up a test that confirms what I said. Your claim to say you can hear less than 10% distortion won't deter me from saying using your ears to set a sub gain is pissing in the wind. Also you are putting more words in my mouth. I NEVER SAID DISTORTION BESIDES MECHANICAL CAN'T BE HEARD. Please go back and get reading comprehension. My whole point is that you can't hear a clipped signal until it is introducing A LOT of distortion. My reasoning is backed by the link I provided. In most cases though you are more likely to overdrive the sub mechanically and get mechanical noise before you get to the point of hearing distortion introduced from the amp. That was my reasoning for ever mentioning mechanical limits. I never said distortion ONLY comes from going beyond physical limits. [/QUOTE]

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