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<blockquote data-quote="Jeffdachef" data-source="post: 8097330" data-attributes="member: 650438">those pioneers have limited frequency response from my experience with the 12&quot; version. basically tried 3 boxes and 3 tunings and it only does well within the 30-45 hz rating and has litterally minimal output in the 60-100 hz which is kinda crucial in some rock, electro and other genres. they also require more power to get moving. i had to get mines overpowered by 200 rms in order to get some good thumping volume, it hits the lows with authority! but if your underpowering it, i&#039;m pretty sure your not goint to be too happy with it because its not efficient with power.In the amount of boxes i&#039;ve tried, The pioneer sounded the worst in a sealed box. A big ported box highly tuned would get you better sound with these subs, they are really weird and picky subs that need to be in a certain setup to sound good, more trouble than its worth imho.</blockquote>

[QUOTE="Jeffdachef, post: 8097330, member: 650438"] those pioneers have limited frequency response from my experience with the 12" version. basically tried 3 boxes and 3 tunings and it only does well within the 30-45 hz rating and has litterally minimal output in the 60-100 hz which is kinda crucial in some rock, electro and other genres. they also require more power to get moving. i had to get mines overpowered by 200 rms in order to get some good thumping volume, it hits the lows with authority! but if your underpowering it, i'm pretty sure your not goint to be too happy with it because its not efficient with power. In the amount of boxes i've tried, The pioneer sounded the worst in a sealed box. A big ported box highly tuned would get you better sound with these subs, they are really weird and picky subs that need to be in a certain setup to sound good, more trouble than its worth imho. [/QUOTE]

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