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<blockquote data-quote="TwistedVisions" data-source="post: 560454" data-attributes="member: 554844"><p>LOL just playing shrapner.... Now about the debates last night, well i didn't watch all it because of homework, but from what i watched this is what i gathered. Bush stumbled on alot of his thoughts, which i guess you can argue that it was lack of preparation,intellegence, or just a poor speaker. I think its all irrelevent though to be honest who was more prepared but the issues brought up in the debate. I copied the excert that i don't agree with kerry on.</p><p></p><p>"</p><p></p><p>Page 2 of 2</p><p></p><p>Kerry Says Security Comes First</p><p></p><p>Kerry said he would immediately begin bilateral negotiations with North Korea -- a goal the Pyongyang government has long sought. But, perhaps in a nod to the sensitivities of the Japanese, the South Koreans and the Chinese, he said he would not abandon the six-nation talks.</p><p></p><p>"I would keep them both going," Kerry said. "I would do the six-party [talks], but I would engage in bilateral discussions."</p><p></p><p>The Bush administration has argued that bilateral talks would reward North Korea for its behavior, and has contended that it is necessary to include the other nations to ensure a regional solution. Kerry declined to say what he would offer North Korea as inducements to give up its weapons but said he would be willing to discuss a broad agenda that includes reducing troop levels on the Korean peninsula, replacing the armistice that ended the Korean War and even reunifying North and South Korea.</p><p></p><p>Kerry said Bush has made a serious mistake by not talking directly with Pyongyang. Of the North Korean leader, he said his advisers -- such as former defense secretary William J. Perry and former national security adviser Samuel R. "Sandy" Berger -- told him that when they were in the Clinton administration "they had no illusion that Kim Jong Il was probably cheating over here and [creating] trouble over there, but they were getting the process of a dialogue to get a verification structure."</p><p></p><p>"You are better off engaged in that effort than disengaged," Kerry said. "</p><p></p><p><a href="http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/articles/A1443-2004May29_2.html" target="_blank">korea</a></p><p></p><p>I personally don't think that kerry would be able to unify north and south korea and i agree that we do need china's leverage to give up there weapons. I do see korea as a threat more so then iraq but i understand that we can't stop the war in iraq until were finished beause of all our lost troops and billions of dollars invested in that 3rd world country. I just don't think we have the amount of troops to carefully watch over these other countrys that do have WMD and the means to use them. I just hope they get this treaty made up(if not already, i haven't heard anything recent about the issue.) and they stick to it. <a href="http://www.cnn.com/SPECIALS/2003/nkorea/" target="_blank">CNN</a></p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="TwistedVisions, post: 560454, member: 554844"] LOL just playing shrapner.... Now about the debates last night, well i didn't watch all it because of homework, but from what i watched this is what i gathered. Bush stumbled on alot of his thoughts, which i guess you can argue that it was lack of preparation,intellegence, or just a poor speaker. I think its all irrelevent though to be honest who was more prepared but the issues brought up in the debate. I copied the excert that i don't agree with kerry on. " Page 2 of 2 Kerry Says Security Comes First Kerry said he would immediately begin bilateral negotiations with North Korea -- a goal the Pyongyang government has long sought. But, perhaps in a nod to the sensitivities of the Japanese, the South Koreans and the Chinese, he said he would not abandon the six-nation talks. "I would keep them both going," Kerry said. "I would do the six-party [talks], but I would engage in bilateral discussions." The Bush administration has argued that bilateral talks would reward North Korea for its behavior, and has contended that it is necessary to include the other nations to ensure a regional solution. Kerry declined to say what he would offer North Korea as inducements to give up its weapons but said he would be willing to discuss a broad agenda that includes reducing troop levels on the Korean peninsula, replacing the armistice that ended the Korean War and even reunifying North and South Korea. Kerry said Bush has made a serious mistake by not talking directly with Pyongyang. Of the North Korean leader, he said his advisers -- such as former defense secretary William J. Perry and former national security adviser Samuel R. "Sandy" Berger -- told him that when they were in the Clinton administration "they had no illusion that Kim Jong Il was probably cheating over here and [creating] trouble over there, but they were getting the process of a dialogue to get a verification structure." "You are better off engaged in that effort than disengaged," Kerry said. " [URL="http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/articles/A1443-2004May29_2.html"]korea[/URL] I personally don't think that kerry would be able to unify north and south korea and i agree that we do need china's leverage to give up there weapons. I do see korea as a threat more so then iraq but i understand that we can't stop the war in iraq until were finished beause of all our lost troops and billions of dollars invested in that 3rd world country. I just don't think we have the amount of troops to carefully watch over these other countrys that do have WMD and the means to use them. I just hope they get this treaty made up(if not already, i haven't heard anything recent about the issue.) and they stick to it. [URL="http://www.cnn.com/SPECIALS/2003/nkorea/"]CNN[/URL] [/QUOTE]
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