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<blockquote data-quote="RobGMN" data-source="post: 8920972" data-attributes="member: 683408">So it WAS too complicated for you. What pays for welfare programs? Taxes?Who collects taxes? The government. When more taxes are collected than spent, what happens? Surplus.The Fed gov&#039;t gets surplus taxes from California that are disbursed to states other than California. That makes California a &quot;donor state&quot;.Any state that gets back more than it gives is a &quot;taker state&quot; or a &quot;welfare state&quot;.FFS, it&#039;s really NOT that difficult.Did you ever learn about finances, economics, or even simple budgeting in school, or were you out sick those years?It goes to the taker states that can&#039;t self-sustain. Do you want to see the list again?[ATTACH=full]70795[/ATTACH]&quot;Spends more money on new programs&quot;. TF are you babbling about?You can&#039;t sustain a budget if you spend money?If you don&#039;t spend money, then a budget isn&#039;t even a necessity.Did you have a liquid lunch and dinner today, or something?What did I describe as a &quot;proper budget&quot;? Can you quote it so I know what TF you are talking about?The same non-argument from a typical right-winger who HAS no argument to offer.Why not just post MAGA! and a stupidazz picture of the Orange Idiot a dozen times? It would be as strong an argument as anything you&#039;ve posted so far.Done.[ATTACH=full]70793[/ATTACH][ATTACH=full]70794[/ATTACH]This was in July 2025. More recently, polls show 60% of the country views Trump unfavorably.Probably not what you were hoping to prove, I bet.The second Google result has nothing to do with the massive exodus of business that you referenced.Can you try to stay focused and remember your own posts, for at least a post or two?Where does this prove the massive exodus of businesses you described?What does it have to do with the fact that California gets back less from the Feds than it gives to the Feds each year, on the order of $275.4 Billion dollars? $275.4 BILLION dollars that funds the red taker states who can&#039;t self-sustain without money from all the donor states?Huh?Is that a weak attempt at saying that pointing out the endless failures of Trump and the Republitards is &quot;crying&quot;?Similar to calling it &quot;deranged&quot;?Interesting, coming from people who voted for and idolize a 34x convicted felon, r@pist, racist, tax cheat, pathological liar, se*xual predator.</blockquote>

[QUOTE="RobGMN, post: 8920972, member: 683408"] So it WAS too complicated for you. What pays for welfare programs? Taxes? Who collects taxes? The government. When more taxes are collected than spent, what happens? Surplus. The Fed gov't gets surplus taxes from California that are disbursed to states other than California. That makes California a "donor state". Any state that gets back more than it gives is a "taker state" or a "welfare state". FFS, it's really NOT that difficult. Did you ever learn about finances, economics, or even simple budgeting in school, or were you out sick those years? It goes to the taker states that can't self-sustain. Do you want to see the list again? [ATTACH type="full"]70795[/ATTACH] "Spends more money on new programs". TF are you babbling about? You can't sustain a budget if you spend money? If you don't spend money, then a budget isn't even a necessity. Did you have a liquid lunch and dinner today, or something? What did I describe as a "proper budget"? Can you quote it so I know what TF you are talking about? The same non-argument from a typical right-winger who HAS no argument to offer. Why not just post MAGA! and a stupidazz picture of the Orange Idiot a dozen times? It would be as strong an argument as anything you've posted so far. Done. [ATTACH type="full" width="442px" alt="1771987057173.png"]70793[/ATTACH] [ATTACH type="full" width="447px" alt="1771987087386.png"]70794[/ATTACH] This was in July 2025. More recently, polls show 60% of the country views Trump unfavorably. Probably not what you were hoping to prove, I bet. The second Google result has nothing to do with the massive exodus of business that you referenced. Can you try to stay focused and remember your own posts, for at least a post or two? Where does this prove the massive exodus of businesses you described? What does it have to do with the fact that California gets back less from the Feds than it gives to the Feds each year, on the order of $275.4 Billion dollars? $275.4 BILLION dollars that funds the red taker states who can't self-sustain without money from all the donor states? Huh? Is that a weak attempt at saying that pointing out the endless failures of Trump and the Republitards is "crying"? Similar to calling it "deranged"? Interesting, coming from people who voted for and idolize a 34x convicted felon, r@pist, racist, tax cheat, pathological liar, se*xual predator. [/QUOTE]

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