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<blockquote data-quote="RobGMN" data-source="post: 8916307" data-attributes="member: 683408"><p>The things the person does, and stands for, which makes me in turn hate the person.</p><p></p><p>Nice logical fallacy.</p><p>1. If Trump were actually doing it and doing it legally, I'd have no problem with it. I had NO issues with Biden deporting exponentially more people than Trump did, because Biden did it legally. Trump thinks he is Supreme Leader and not subject to the laws of the United States. That shit doesn't fly in my book. How about yours?</p><p>2. If Trump were actually doing that, and doing it legally, I'd have no problem with it. If you reccall, the Fentanyl influx and deaths started during the Trump administration, peaked under Biden, then rapidly declined under Biden. How many boats did Biden illegally blow up to achieve the decline? How many people were illegally killed to achieve it?</p><p>Things can be achieved without breaking the law. Trump just seems incapable of doing so.</p><p></p><p></p><p>You voted for a wall that was a ridiculous idea to begin with. No legit analysis of the prospects indicated it would be of any value. Then it was funded illegally by Trump. Then it was extensively lied about by Trump regarding what was actually done.</p><p>You voted for illegal stuff and lies. I guess you got what you voted for, huh?</p><p></p><p>I do remember hearing about the steEl and other materials from the failed bOrder wall project being sold at auction for cheap. </p><p>Can you provide an analysis of what it would have cost the US government to separate/catalog/store/transport /use that material for other projects elsewhere in the US? </p><p>Would it have cost more than it was worth? Kind of like why huge buildings are torn down and new ones built in place instead of being renovated...</p><p></p><p>I'd be interested in further info on that. When did Biden or Harris say that there was no bOrder crisis that started under Trump? Can you provide quotes, or dates, or maybe even video snippets? I'd be interested in seeing or reading about it.</p><p></p><p>Don't want what? Immigration? I'll assume you are indigenous. I'm not. My ancestors were immigrants. I'm not going to say that now that we made it, no one else gets to come. </p><p>If we want to play that game, then it's time to hand the land back to your people, and everyone else GTFO.</p><p></p><p>So the argument is both that they come for welfare, but that they are stealing everyone's jobs. </p><p>Which one is it? Welfare, or jobs?</p><p></p><p>Hint: Illegal immigrants are not eligible for Federal Welfare programs. </p><p></p><p>I have not seen a TikTok of illegals burning the flag and saying we work for them. I have also not seen someone waving their welfare check at a person who is on their way to work, and laughing at them. Both things have now been claimed to me as seen by others. I did also hear Trump claim that he witnessed big celebrations in the streets on 9/11. Two of the three claims are actual bullshit.</p><p>If you share the TikTok video, I will gladly view and comment on it. But I'm not going to comment on a "friend of a friend of a friend's sister saw a TikTok video on YouTube" deal.</p><p></p><p>Trump is a racist, ******, ****** predator, convicted felon, tax cheat, pathological liar. it's been proved dozens if not hundreds of times over.</p><p>Our country went into recession under his watch. His first year back in office has been a shitshow.</p><p></p><p>You can't see any of this, or do you simply deny it and call it "fake news"?</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="RobGMN, post: 8916307, member: 683408"] The things the person does, and stands for, which makes me in turn hate the person. Nice logical fallacy. 1. If Trump were actually doing it and doing it legally, I'd have no problem with it. I had NO issues with Biden deporting exponentially more people than Trump did, because Biden did it legally. Trump thinks he is Supreme Leader and not subject to the laws of the United States. That shit doesn't fly in my book. How about yours? 2. If Trump were actually doing that, and doing it legally, I'd have no problem with it. If you reccall, the Fentanyl influx and deaths started during the Trump administration, peaked under Biden, then rapidly declined under Biden. How many boats did Biden illegally blow up to achieve the decline? How many people were illegally killed to achieve it? Things can be achieved without breaking the law. Trump just seems incapable of doing so. You voted for a wall that was a ridiculous idea to begin with. No legit analysis of the prospects indicated it would be of any value. Then it was funded illegally by Trump. Then it was extensively lied about by Trump regarding what was actually done. You voted for illegal stuff and lies. I guess you got what you voted for, huh? I do remember hearing about the steEl and other materials from the failed bOrder wall project being sold at auction for cheap. Can you provide an analysis of what it would have cost the US government to separate/catalog/store/transport /use that material for other projects elsewhere in the US? Would it have cost more than it was worth? Kind of like why huge buildings are torn down and new ones built in place instead of being renovated... I'd be interested in further info on that. When did Biden or Harris say that there was no bOrder crisis that started under Trump? Can you provide quotes, or dates, or maybe even video snippets? I'd be interested in seeing or reading about it. Don't want what? Immigration? I'll assume you are indigenous. I'm not. My ancestors were immigrants. I'm not going to say that now that we made it, no one else gets to come. If we want to play that game, then it's time to hand the land back to your people, and everyone else GTFO. So the argument is both that they come for welfare, but that they are stealing everyone's jobs. Which one is it? Welfare, or jobs? Hint: Illegal immigrants are not eligible for Federal Welfare programs. I have not seen a TikTok of illegals burning the flag and saying we work for them. I have also not seen someone waving their welfare check at a person who is on their way to work, and laughing at them. Both things have now been claimed to me as seen by others. I did also hear Trump claim that he witnessed big celebrations in the streets on 9/11. Two of the three claims are actual bullshit. If you share the TikTok video, I will gladly view and comment on it. But I'm not going to comment on a "friend of a friend of a friend's sister saw a TikTok video on YouTube" deal. Trump is a racist, ******, ****** predator, convicted felon, tax cheat, pathological liar. it's been proved dozens if not hundreds of times over. Our country went into recession under his watch. His first year back in office has been a shitshow. You can't see any of this, or do you simply deny it and call it "fake news"? [/QUOTE]
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