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<blockquote data-quote="RobGMN" data-source="post: 8914817" data-attributes="member: 683408">Not that laws or court decisions seem to matter to some people here (and some people in our government, apparently), this one flies in the face of an argument I have seen here multiple times.&quot;Such repeated conjoined use by high-ranking officials of thewords “criminal” and “alien” prompts the need for clarification of two fundamental facts inreviewing the two pending motions brought by individual immigrants and an immigrant-focusedorganization in this case. First, “[a]s a general rule, it is not a crime for a removable alien to remain present in the United States.” Arizona v. United States, 567 U.S. 387, 407 (2012)(citing INS v. Lopez-Mendoza, 468 U.S. 1032, 1038 (1984)).&quot;[URL unfurl=&quot;true&quot;]https://storage.courtlistener.com/recap/gov.uscourts.dcd.285268/gov.uscourts.dcd.285268.68.0.pdf[/URL][URL unfurl=&quot;true&quot;]https://supreme.justia.com/cases/federal/us/567/387/[/URL]We may WANT it to be a crime, but the law doesn&#039;t give a crap about what we WANT. It only matters what the law IS (until some dirty judge decides against the actual rule of law).</blockquote>

[QUOTE="RobGMN, post: 8914817, member: 683408"] Not that laws or court decisions seem to matter to some people here (and some people in our government, apparently), this one flies in the face of an argument I have seen here multiple times. [I]"Such repeated conjoined use by high-ranking officials of thewords “criminal” and “alien” prompts the need for clarification of two fundamental facts inreviewing the two pending motions brought by individual immigrants and an immigrant-focusedorganization in this case. First, “[U][a]s a general rule, it is not a crime for a removable alien to remain present in the United States[/U].” Arizona v. United States, 567 U.S. 387, 407 (2012)(citing INS v. Lopez-Mendoza, 468 U.S. 1032, 1038 (1984))." [URL unfurl="true"]https://storage.courtlistener.com/recap/gov.uscourts.dcd.285268/gov.uscourts.dcd.285268.68.0.pdf[/URL] [URL unfurl="true"]https://supreme.justia.com/cases/federal/us/567/387/[/URL][/I] We may WANT it to be a crime, but the law doesn't give a crap about what we WANT. It only matters what the law IS (until some dirty judge decides against the actual rule of law). [/QUOTE]

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