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<blockquote data-quote="RobGMN" data-source="post: 8905460" data-attributes="member: 683408"><p>"There are different types of quotes."</p><p>No shit? WOW, who'd ever have thought that?</p><p>JFC, it's like talking to a cinder block.</p><p></p><p>Let's try again. Maybe you'll understand if you read it more than once:</p><p></p><p>You literally post the definition of verbatim that says <em>"a<strong> group of words</strong> from a text or speech"</em>, and then go on to argue that it must be EVERY word from a text or speech.</p><p>An argument that you cannot substantiate in any way, AND that is contradicted by scholars and linguists the world over, not to mention the very definition YOU posted.</p><p></p><p></p><p><em>"A direct <strong>quotation</strong> <strong>reproduces <u>words</u> verbatim from another work</strong> or from your own previously published work."</em></p><p><em>[URL unfurl="true"]https://apastyle.apa.org/style-grammar-guidelines/citations/quotations[/URL]</em></p><p></p><p>This does NOT say that you reproduce the ENTIRE other work in your quote. What ******* idiot would think that you have to copy and paste the entire play Othello, in order to have quoted verbatim from it?</p><p></p><p><strong>THE ABOVE IS NOT A RHETORICAL QUESTION.</strong></p><p><strong>WHAT ******* IDIOT WOULD THINK YOU HAVE TO COPY AND PASTE THE ENTIRE PLAY OTHELLO, IN ORDER TO HAVE QUOTED VERBATIM FROM IT?</strong></p><p></p><p>For **** sake, they even give an example that uses a partial sentence quoted from the original work: <em>Effective teams can be difficult to describe because “high performance along one domain does not translate to high performance along another” (Ervin et al., 2018, p. 470).</em></p><p></p><p>Here is an example of how it is used in the legal world: <em>"The term <strong>verbatim</strong> refers to the act of quoting or citing text exactly as it appears in the original source."</em></p><p>Here are two examples of how <strong>verbatim</strong> citations might be used:</p><ul> <li data-xf-list-type="ul">A lawyer quotes a witness's statement in a trial document: "I saw the defendant leave the scene at 10:00 PM."</li> <li data-xf-list-type="ul">A researcher cites a legal statute in a paper: "According to 42 U.S.C. § 1983, every person who, under color of any statute..." (hypothetical example). <a href="https://legal-resources.uslegalforms.com/v/verbatim" target="_blank">https://legal-resources.uslegalforms.com/v/verbatim</a></li> </ul><p><strong>Notice that the lawer doen't repeat the ENTIRE witness statement, but provides a VERBATIM quote of a relevant PORTION.</strong></p><p></p><p>Here is an explantion on Grammarly: <em>"Use quotation marks to indicate a direct quote <strong>or<u> passage </u>copied <u>verbatim</u></strong> from another source."</em></p><p><em>[URL unfurl="true"]https://www.grammarly.com/blog/punctuation-capitalization/quotation-marks/[/URL]</em></p><p></p><p>Notice how it says PASSAGE copied VERBATIM.</p><p><em>passage - a usually brief<strong> portion</strong> of a written work or speech that is relevant to a point under discussion or noteworthy for content or style</em></p><p><em>portion - a <strong>part of </strong>a whole</em></p><p></p><p>If "verbatim" means EVERY SINGLE WORD IN THE ORIGINAL like you claim, then HOW could a PASSAGE (PORTION of a written work) be VERBATIM?</p><p></p><p><strong>THE ABOVE IS NOT A RHETORICAL QUESTION. </strong></p><p><strong>TELL US HOW A PASSAGE (<u>PORTION)</u> CAN BE VERBATIM, IF "VERBATIM" MEANS THE ENTIRE ORIGINAL WORK MUST BE INCLUDED IN THE QUOTE.</strong></p><p></p><p>Do you not see a pattern here? At all?</p><p></p><p>I'm genuinely flabbergasted by the amount of time and typing you put into showing us you do not understand the simplest concepts of the English language, and your unending argument that all the experts are wrong, but YOU are right.</p><p>Is it masochism, or do you get some weird thrill out of being pseudo-anonymous and making yourself look like you have an IQ of 75?</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="RobGMN, post: 8905460, member: 683408"] "There are different types of quotes." No shit? WOW, who'd ever have thought that? JFC, it's like talking to a cinder block. Let's try again. Maybe you'll understand if you read it more than once: You literally post the definition of verbatim that says [I]"a[B] group of words[/B] from a text or speech"[/I], and then go on to argue that it must be EVERY word from a text or speech. An argument that you cannot substantiate in any way, AND that is contradicted by scholars and linguists the world over, not to mention the very definition YOU posted. [I]"A direct [B]quotation[/B] [B]reproduces [U]words[/U] verbatim from another work[/B] or from your own previously published work." [URL unfurl="true"]https://apastyle.apa.org/style-grammar-guidelines/citations/quotations[/URL][/I] This does NOT say that you reproduce the ENTIRE other work in your quote. What ******* idiot would think that you have to copy and paste the entire play Othello, in order to have quoted verbatim from it? [B]THE ABOVE IS NOT A RHETORICAL QUESTION. WHAT ******* IDIOT WOULD THINK YOU HAVE TO COPY AND PASTE THE ENTIRE PLAY OTHELLO, IN ORDER TO HAVE QUOTED VERBATIM FROM IT?[/B] For **** sake, they even give an example that uses a partial sentence quoted from the original work: [I]Effective teams can be difficult to describe because “high performance along one domain does not translate to high performance along another” (Ervin et al., 2018, p. 470).[/I] Here is an example of how it is used in the legal world: [I]"The term [B]verbatim[/B] refers to the act of quoting or citing text exactly as it appears in the original source."[/I] Here are two examples of how [B]verbatim[/B] citations might be used: [LIST] [*]A lawyer quotes a witness's statement in a trial document: "I saw the defendant leave the scene at 10:00 PM." [*]A researcher cites a legal statute in a paper: "According to 42 U.S.C. § 1983, every person who, under color of any statute..." (hypothetical example). [URL]https://legal-resources.uslegalforms.com/v/verbatim[/URL] [/LIST] [B]Notice that the lawer doen't repeat the ENTIRE witness statement, but provides a VERBATIM quote of a relevant PORTION.[/B] Here is an explantion on Grammarly: [I]"Use quotation marks to indicate a direct quote [B]or[U] passage [/U]copied [U]verbatim[/U][/B][U] [/U]from another source." [URL unfurl="true"]https://www.grammarly.com/blog/punctuation-capitalization/quotation-marks/[/URL][/I] Notice how it says PASSAGE copied VERBATIM. [I]passage - a usually brief[B] portion[/B] of a written work or speech that is relevant to a point under discussion or noteworthy for content or style portion - a [B]part of [/B]a whole[/I] If "verbatim" means EVERY SINGLE WORD IN THE ORIGINAL like you claim, then HOW could a PASSAGE (PORTION of a written work) be VERBATIM? [B]THE ABOVE IS NOT A RHETORICAL QUESTION. TELL US HOW A PASSAGE ([U]PORTION)[/U] CAN BE VERBATIM, IF "VERBATIM" MEANS THE ENTIRE ORIGINAL WORK MUST BE INCLUDED IN THE QUOTE.[/B] Do you not see a pattern here? At all? I'm genuinely flabbergasted by the amount of time and typing you put into showing us you do not understand the simplest concepts of the English language, and your unending argument that all the experts are wrong, but YOU are right. Is it masochism, or do you get some weird thrill out of being pseudo-anonymous and making yourself look like you have an IQ of 75? [/QUOTE]
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