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<blockquote data-quote="RobGMN" data-source="post: 8889515" data-attributes="member: 683408"><p>My apologies. I thought prescribed fires was how they did the brush clearing you are referring to.</p><p></p><p>Fire breaks (firebreaks?): Are you under the impression that fire breaks (usually a maximum of 60' apart, but average 20-30 feet) would stop the fire from moving in 80-100MPH winds? This video shows the effects of wind on burning trees. I'm thinking even a 120 foot firebreak might not be enough: [MEDIA=reddit]interestingasfuck/comments/1hwxtoj[/MEDIA]</p><p>Thoughts?</p><p></p><p>I guess this is not the same fire chief that provided consultation to Old_Slapper, but it speaks to Elon Musk's claims that you are parroting:</p><p><em>“All of the brush clearance, fuel breaks — they’re very effective on what we would consider a normal day,” said Chief Brian Fennessy of the Orange County Fire Authority. “But what you’re talking about here is probably less than 1% of all the fires that we respond to in Southern California.”</em></p><p><em>The Palisades fire ignited Jan. 7 amid hurricane-force winds, with <a href="https://www.latimes.com/california/live/pacific-palisades-fire-updates-los-angeles#p=one-of-the-most-destructive-firestorms-in-l-a-history-kills-5-burns-2-000-buildings" target="_blank">gusts of up to 100 mph</a> recorded in some areas.</em></p><p><em>“<u>You could have put a 10-lane freeway in front of that fire and it would not have slowed it one bit,” Fennessy said."</u></em></p><p>But I'm sure he's just a Democrat who is afraid of losing his job, and it making up stories to help Newsom</p><p>Right?</p><p>Same with this guy:</p><p><em>Max Moritz, a cooperative extension wildfire specialist at UC Santa Barbara:</em></p><p><em>Given the weather conditions, Moritz is skeptical that more landscape-level brush clearance would have done much to slow the fire’s initial spread. He also noted that landscape-level brush management is distinct from brush clearance around individual homes, which is typically the responsibility of the property owner and can help give firefighters opportunities to protect structures."</em></p><p></p><p>And this: <em>"Several experts noted that the intense gusts <a href="https://www.latimes.com/california/story/2025-01-09/burning-embers-flews-miles-brought-mass-destruction-across-l-a-county" target="_blank">lofted embers <strong>miles</strong> from the fire front</a>, essentially spreading flames through the air — not by brush."</em></p><p><em>[URL unfurl="true"]https://www.latimes.com/environment/story/2025-01-13/could-brush-clearance-have-helped-slow-the-spread-of-the-palisades-fire[/URL]</em></p><p>They obviously didn't consult with Old_Slapper, who meets with the mayor and has the "inside" scoop on the situation.</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="RobGMN, post: 8889515, member: 683408"] My apologies. I thought prescribed fires was how they did the brush clearing you are referring to. Fire breaks (firebreaks?): Are you under the impression that fire breaks (usually a maximum of 60' apart, but average 20-30 feet) would stop the fire from moving in 80-100MPH winds? This video shows the effects of wind on burning trees. I'm thinking even a 120 foot firebreak might not be enough: [MEDIA=reddit]interestingasfuck/comments/1hwxtoj[/MEDIA] Thoughts? I guess this is not the same fire chief that provided consultation to Old_Slapper, but it speaks to Elon Musk's claims that you are parroting: [I]“All of the brush clearance, fuel breaks — they’re very effective on what we would consider a normal day,” said Chief Brian Fennessy of the Orange County Fire Authority. “But what you’re talking about here is probably less than 1% of all the fires that we respond to in Southern California.” The Palisades fire ignited Jan. 7 amid hurricane-force winds, with [URL='https://www.latimes.com/california/live/pacific-palisades-fire-updates-los-angeles#p=one-of-the-most-destructive-firestorms-in-l-a-history-kills-5-burns-2-000-buildings']gusts of up to 100 mph[/URL] recorded in some areas. “[U]You could have put a 10-lane freeway in front of that fire and it would not have slowed it one bit,” Fennessy said."[/U][/I] But I'm sure he's just a Democrat who is afraid of losing his job, and it making up stories to help Newsom Right? Same with this guy: [I]Max Moritz, a cooperative extension wildfire specialist at UC Santa Barbara: Given the weather conditions, Moritz is skeptical that more landscape-level brush clearance would have done much to slow the fire’s initial spread. He also noted that landscape-level brush management is distinct from brush clearance around individual homes, which is typically the responsibility of the property owner and can help give firefighters opportunities to protect structures."[/I] And this: [I]"Several experts noted that the intense gusts [URL='https://www.latimes.com/california/story/2025-01-09/burning-embers-flews-miles-brought-mass-destruction-across-l-a-county']lofted embers [B]miles[/B] from the fire front[/URL], essentially spreading flames through the air — not by brush." [URL unfurl="true"]https://www.latimes.com/environment/story/2025-01-13/could-brush-clearance-have-helped-slow-the-spread-of-the-palisades-fire[/URL][/I] They obviously didn't consult with Old_Slapper, who meets with the mayor and has the "inside" scoop on the situation. [/QUOTE]
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