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<blockquote data-quote="Old_Slapper" data-source="post: 8885873" data-attributes="member: 690458"><p>This is why didn't say "all of them don't have one."</p><p></p><p>Because you stated that a ***** does not have a BC or SSN. Therefore, it is not human, so it is okay to kill it. In your words, only humans have a BC and SSN and it is okay to kill creatures that don't. Under your definition, a human without a BC or SSN is not human, so they must be a creature.</p><p></p><p>My mother is here legally, and if you wish to continue to receive any respect, you will refrain from making such statements about killing ones mother. </p><p></p><p></p><p>Why would anyone think an embryo should be issued any of those? A BC is only used to state where and when a person was born. A SSN is a form of tracking and identifying people. </p><p></p><p>And when did I say a ***** becomes an actual baby? I mentioned it many times before. </p><p></p><p>Laws originated from the 10 commandments. That is true. Would you prefer we don't follow the laws that were put in place due to the 10 commandments? So, you would be perfectly fine with legalizing murder, of any kind, and theft?</p><p></p><p>I didn't say all abortion should be illegal. I just don't believe it should be legal as a form of birth control. </p><p></p><p></p><p>Read above. I do believe it should be a basis for US law. Maybe we should remove all Christian based laws and become like the other countries where Christianity is illegal. Who would you like to follow? Pakistan, North Korea, or how about Afghanistan? All those countries are thriving without Christian based laws</p><p></p><p></p><p></p><p>Nope! I did not.</p><p></p><p>Again, I did not say a dog ***** is a human. If I did, I probably misunderstood what you were saying.</p><p></p><p></p><p>What makes you think it's a woman carrying the baby. It could be a man that is carrying it. First you say all illegals are Mexican and now you're saying that all pregnant people are women. Are you sure you're a democrat? LOL... I gotcha on that one. </p><p></p><p>Plaintiff would be the person who was carrying the baby or the state. If a person is murdered, who becomes the plaintiff? </p><p></p><p></p><p>By why do they make a point to mention "*****?" They don't mention any other stages.</p><p></p><p></p><p>I can respect that decision and thank you for answering it. Did you know that some states will allow abortions even past that point?</p><p></p><p>Most republicans are ok with accepting abortions. They just want term limits set. Democrats don't want term limits.</p><p></p><p></p><p></p><p>There is no solid viable truth that God exists. There is no solid viable truth that science is correct about the way man was created. This is why we, meaning you and I, only have a belief. I respect your belief because I cannot prove it is false and I have my beliefs because of my own personal experiences and from what I have studied. Ther are many religious documents out there that you have not read in your seminary class.</p><p></p><p>I didn't just grab any report and show it to you. If you were to Google what a ***** is, you will see that over 99% of the medical reports state that a human embryo is a human. That family, article I showed, I know was from an anti-abortion group. However, how they explained what a baby is, and the stages to become a baby, were all the same as any report I am ever read. They just explained it more clearly.</p><p></p><p></p><p>Is it absolutely true! However, I assure you that if there is something you believe I was wrong on, it's probably due to me explaining it wrong or I misunderstood what you were asking. We are all typing as fast as we can while working at the same time. Grammar mistakes are going to happen.</p><p></p><p>Believe it or not, a few months ago, a group of liberals came to me and started talking about politics. They stated that out of everyone they have ever talked to, about religion, I was the easiest because I didn't raise my voice and I was more open minded. I was also willing to call out a republican for something they did and not try to defend it. </p><p></p><p>I don't expect to change anyones mind. However, if someone wants to challenge me on facts, then I am not able to back down. Such as abortion. If you tell me you believe in abortion because you have not sympathy for an unborn child, then I'll accept that. I won't like it, but I accept it. However, if you come to me and say you believe in abortion because an unborn child is not human, then I will have to correct that. </p><p></p><p></p><p>Legal to what degree? We already know that in some states, killing a *****, without proper consent, is considered murder. That's not just the states that condone abortion.</p><p></p><p></p><p>I know, and I apologize for it. Sometimes it sounds like you're just trying to dodge the question and/or throw in a diversion. I have to keep reminding myself that we are typing over the internet and not sitting in person. I know, in person, the conversations go a lot easier.</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="Old_Slapper, post: 8885873, member: 690458"] This is why didn't say "all of them don't have one." Because you stated that a ***** does not have a BC or SSN. Therefore, it is not human, so it is okay to kill it. In your words, only humans have a BC and SSN and it is okay to kill creatures that don't. Under your definition, a human without a BC or SSN is not human, so they must be a creature. My mother is here legally, and if you wish to continue to receive any respect, you will refrain from making such statements about killing ones mother. Why would anyone think an embryo should be issued any of those? A BC is only used to state where and when a person was born. A SSN is a form of tracking and identifying people. And when did I say a ***** becomes an actual baby? I mentioned it many times before. Laws originated from the 10 commandments. That is true. Would you prefer we don't follow the laws that were put in place due to the 10 commandments? So, you would be perfectly fine with legalizing murder, of any kind, and theft? I didn't say all abortion should be illegal. I just don't believe it should be legal as a form of birth control. Read above. I do believe it should be a basis for US law. Maybe we should remove all Christian based laws and become like the other countries where Christianity is illegal. Who would you like to follow? Pakistan, North Korea, or how about Afghanistan? All those countries are thriving without Christian based laws Nope! I did not. Again, I did not say a dog ***** is a human. If I did, I probably misunderstood what you were saying. What makes you think it's a woman carrying the baby. It could be a man that is carrying it. First you say all illegals are Mexican and now you're saying that all pregnant people are women. Are you sure you're a democrat? LOL... I gotcha on that one. Plaintiff would be the person who was carrying the baby or the state. If a person is murdered, who becomes the plaintiff? By why do they make a point to mention "*****?" They don't mention any other stages. I can respect that decision and thank you for answering it. Did you know that some states will allow abortions even past that point? Most republicans are ok with accepting abortions. They just want term limits set. Democrats don't want term limits. There is no solid viable truth that God exists. There is no solid viable truth that science is correct about the way man was created. This is why we, meaning you and I, only have a belief. I respect your belief because I cannot prove it is false and I have my beliefs because of my own personal experiences and from what I have studied. Ther are many religious documents out there that you have not read in your seminary class. I didn't just grab any report and show it to you. If you were to Google what a ***** is, you will see that over 99% of the medical reports state that a human embryo is a human. That family, article I showed, I know was from an anti-abortion group. However, how they explained what a baby is, and the stages to become a baby, were all the same as any report I am ever read. They just explained it more clearly. [I][/I] Is it absolutely true! However, I assure you that if there is something you believe I was wrong on, it's probably due to me explaining it wrong or I misunderstood what you were asking. We are all typing as fast as we can while working at the same time. Grammar mistakes are going to happen. Believe it or not, a few months ago, a group of liberals came to me and started talking about politics. They stated that out of everyone they have ever talked to, about religion, I was the easiest because I didn't raise my voice and I was more open minded. I was also willing to call out a republican for something they did and not try to defend it. I don't expect to change anyones mind. However, if someone wants to challenge me on facts, then I am not able to back down. Such as abortion. If you tell me you believe in abortion because you have not sympathy for an unborn child, then I'll accept that. I won't like it, but I accept it. However, if you come to me and say you believe in abortion because an unborn child is not human, then I will have to correct that. Legal to what degree? We already know that in some states, killing a *****, without proper consent, is considered murder. That's not just the states that condone abortion. I know, and I apologize for it. Sometimes it sounds like you're just trying to dodge the question and/or throw in a diversion. I have to keep reminding myself that we are typing over the internet and not sitting in person. I know, in person, the conversations go a lot easier. [/QUOTE]
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