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<blockquote data-quote="RobGMN" data-source="post: 8884583" data-attributes="member: 683408"><p>If you consider someone lying to you as a "change" for good, then you are part of the problem.</p><p></p><p>So it upsets you that I have a job I am good at, that allows me to pay for my own retirement instead of hoping for Social Security to support me, that saves around $7 taxpayer dollars for every dollar I get paid,?</p><p></p><p>Do you think everyone should be like you, drifting from job to job, delivering pizzas at 47 years old, living under the roof of anyone who will care for you?</p><p></p><p></p><p>More repetitions of the same bullshit line.</p><p>For **** sake, you can't even show one shred of proof for your repetition of Trump's claim that China will pay a tariff TRUMP imposed on the stuff they ship here.</p><p>Not ONE SHRED.</p><p>And yet you think your oft-repeated claim of "You have been presented with facts and proof in the past" carries ANY credibility?</p><p></p><p>Sorry, but simply because YOU type your claims here, does not make them proofs.</p><p></p><p>Explain how.</p><p></p><p>Incorrect. The 2018 tariffs were rescinded when other countries retaliated with dollar-for-dollar matching tariffs.</p><p></p><p><em>"In June 2018, India planned to recoup trade penalties of $241 million on $1.2 billion worth of Indian steel and aluminum, but attempted talks delayed these until June 2019 when India imposed retaliatory tariffs on $240 million worth of U.S. goods. Canada imposed matching retaliatory tariffs on July 1, 2018. China implemented retaliatory tariffs equivalent to the $34 billion tariff imposed on it by the U.S."</em></p><p><em>"On July 1, 2018, Canada implemented retaliatory tariffs on U.S. imports."</em></p><p><em>"In response to the imposition of U.S. tariffs, Mexico implemented retaliatory tariffs on around US$3 billion (MXN $58.6 billion) worth of U.S. goods. These Mexican tariffs, which went into effect on June 5, 2018, were imposed on U.S. steel, pork, cheese, whiskey, and apples, among other goods..."</em></p><p><em>"On May 17, 2019, the U.S. reached a deal to lift the steel and aluminum tariffs on Mexico and Canada."</em></p><p><em></em></p><p><em>"The Trump administration's tariffs were panned by the majority of economists and analysts, with general consensus among experts—including U.S. Director of the <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/National_Economic_Council_(United_States)" target="_blank">National Economic Council</a> <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Larry_Kudlow" target="_blank">Larry Kudlow</a>—being that the tariffs either had no direct benefits on the U.S. economy and GDP growth or they had a small to moderately negative impact on the economy."</em></p><p></p><p>But you think doing the exact same thing will yield success THIS time around because "MAGA!!!". </p><p>You say Democrats are resistant to change, while your elected savior is going to do the SAME thing that failed his first time around?</p><p>Think about that for a second, before you see a shiny object.</p><p></p><p></p><p>Ahhh, that good old Conservative hypocrisy rears its ugly head.</p><p>So Trump should be allowed to pardon people for crimes, but Biden should not.</p><p>Trump should be able to stack the courts, but Biden should not.</p><p>Trump should be allowed to commit a felony as President and not be punished, but Hunter should go to jail.</p><p></p><p>What <em>other</em> double-standards should we impose in favor of the right?</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="RobGMN, post: 8884583, member: 683408"] If you consider someone lying to you as a "change" for good, then you are part of the problem. So it upsets you that I have a job I am good at, that allows me to pay for my own retirement instead of hoping for Social Security to support me, that saves around $7 taxpayer dollars for every dollar I get paid,? Do you think everyone should be like you, drifting from job to job, delivering pizzas at 47 years old, living under the roof of anyone who will care for you? More repetitions of the same bullshit line. For **** sake, you can't even show one shred of proof for your repetition of Trump's claim that China will pay a tariff TRUMP imposed on the stuff they ship here. Not ONE SHRED. And yet you think your oft-repeated claim of "You have been presented with facts and proof in the past" carries ANY credibility? Sorry, but simply because YOU type your claims here, does not make them proofs. Explain how. Incorrect. The 2018 tariffs were rescinded when other countries retaliated with dollar-for-dollar matching tariffs. [I]"In June 2018, India planned to recoup trade penalties of $241 million on $1.2 billion worth of Indian steel and aluminum, but attempted talks delayed these until June 2019 when India imposed retaliatory tariffs on $240 million worth of U.S. goods. Canada imposed matching retaliatory tariffs on July 1, 2018. China implemented retaliatory tariffs equivalent to the $34 billion tariff imposed on it by the U.S." "On July 1, 2018, Canada implemented retaliatory tariffs on U.S. imports." "In response to the imposition of U.S. tariffs, Mexico implemented retaliatory tariffs on around US$3 billion (MXN $58.6 billion) worth of U.S. goods. These Mexican tariffs, which went into effect on June 5, 2018, were imposed on U.S. steel, pork, cheese, whiskey, and apples, among other goods..." "On May 17, 2019, the U.S. reached a deal to lift the steel and aluminum tariffs on Mexico and Canada." "The Trump administration's tariffs were panned by the majority of economists and analysts, with general consensus among experts—including U.S. Director of the [URL='https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/National_Economic_Council_(United_States)']National Economic Council[/URL] [URL='https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Larry_Kudlow']Larry Kudlow[/URL]—being that the tariffs either had no direct benefits on the U.S. economy and GDP growth or they had a small to moderately negative impact on the economy."[/I] But you think doing the exact same thing will yield success THIS time around because "MAGA!!!". You say Democrats are resistant to change, while your elected savior is going to do the SAME thing that failed his first time around? Think about that for a second, before you see a shiny object. Ahhh, that good old Conservative hypocrisy rears its ugly head. So Trump should be allowed to pardon people for crimes, but Biden should not. Trump should be able to stack the courts, but Biden should not. Trump should be allowed to commit a felony as President and not be punished, but Hunter should go to jail. What [I]other[/I] double-standards should we impose in favor of the right? [/QUOTE]
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