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<blockquote data-quote="RobGMN" data-source="post: 8884563" data-attributes="member: 683408"><p>Ahhh, so what's good for Trump is bad for Biden.</p><p>Typical right-wing hypocrites.</p><p></p><p></p><p>Incorrect. Give me an answer that is correct and that I can't prove wrong, and I will accept that.</p><p></p><p>Not ONE person here could honestly say that when I call bullshit, I simply say "bullshit" and move on.</p><p>I will back up EVERYHTING I say with a proof, and I always have.</p><p></p><p><em>"He is telling you who will pay the tariffs."</em></p><p>Annnnd there is the problem. You think that he is telling you the truth when he says that, despite NO <em><u>import</u></em> tariff ever being paid by an exporting country.</p><p></p><p>You BELIEVE him, because "MAGA!", but he is lying when he says China will pay a tariff that the US places on imported goods. China will not pay a tariff on goods we get from them, any more than you would pay a VAT on speakers you ship to Canada.</p><p></p><p>This is how tariffs work, regardless of what Trump "tells" you:</p><p>[URL unfurl="true"]https://www.trade.gov/import-tariffs-fees-overview-and-resources#:~:text=A%20tariff%20or%20duty%20(the,different%20products%20by%20different%20countries.[/URL]</p><p></p><ul> <li data-xf-list-type="ul">A tariff or duty (the words are used interchangeably) is a tax levied by governments on the value including freight and insurance of<u> imported products</u>. Different tariffs applied on different products by different countries.</li> <li data-xf-list-type="ul">National sales and local taxes, and in some instances customs fees, are often charged in addition to the tariff.</li> <li data-xf-list-type="ul"><u>The tariff, along with the other assessments, is collected at the time of customs clearance in the foreign port.</u></li> </ul><p>The US has no power to levy a tariff on a product that is leaving another country. They have the power to tariff a product once it gets HERE and is being picked up by the importer.</p><p></p><p>I dunno if you travel, but do you know what a "duty-free" shop is?</p><p>It's a place where you can buy a product free of taxes or tariffs ("duties"), but <u>you</u> pay them at the destination country.</p><p></p><p>Go to China. Buy a stereo at the duty-free shop in Guangzhou Airport. Bring it back here. You are now the importer.</p><p>Guess who will pay the 25% tariff?</p><p>I can assure you 1,000% that it's <u>not </u>going to be paid by the operator of the duty-free shop where you bought the stereo.</p><p>It's going to be paid by YOU, the importer.</p><p></p><p>It's the same if you buy one stereo and hand-carry it back, if you buy a crate and it gets flown over, or if you buy a shipping container full and it floats across the ocean on a boat to get here.</p><p></p><p>That's reality. That's how tariffs work.</p><p>Trump is telling lies. And his followers are eating them up.</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="RobGMN, post: 8884563, member: 683408"] Ahhh, so what's good for Trump is bad for Biden. Typical right-wing hypocrites. Incorrect. Give me an answer that is correct and that I can't prove wrong, and I will accept that. Not ONE person here could honestly say that when I call bullshit, I simply say "bullshit" and move on. I will back up EVERYHTING I say with a proof, and I always have. [I]"He is telling you who will pay the tariffs."[/I] Annnnd there is the problem. You think that he is telling you the truth when he says that, despite NO [I][U]import[/U][/I] tariff ever being paid by an exporting country. You BELIEVE him, because "MAGA!", but he is lying when he says China will pay a tariff that the US places on imported goods. China will not pay a tariff on goods we get from them, any more than you would pay a VAT on speakers you ship to Canada. This is how tariffs work, regardless of what Trump "tells" you: [URL unfurl="true"]https://www.trade.gov/import-tariffs-fees-overview-and-resources#:~:text=A%20tariff%20or%20duty%20(the,different%20products%20by%20different%20countries.[/URL] [LIST] [*]A tariff or duty (the words are used interchangeably) is a tax levied by governments on the value including freight and insurance of[U] imported products[/U]. Different tariffs applied on different products by different countries. [*]National sales and local taxes, and in some instances customs fees, are often charged in addition to the tariff. [*][U]The tariff, along with the other assessments, is collected at the time of customs clearance in the foreign port.[/U] [/LIST] The US has no power to levy a tariff on a product that is leaving another country. They have the power to tariff a product once it gets HERE and is being picked up by the importer. I dunno if you travel, but do you know what a "duty-free" shop is? It's a place where you can buy a product free of taxes or tariffs ("duties"), but [U]you[/U] pay them at the destination country. Go to China. Buy a stereo at the duty-free shop in Guangzhou Airport. Bring it back here. You are now the importer. Guess who will pay the 25% tariff? I can assure you 1,000% that it's [U]not [/U]going to be paid by the operator of the duty-free shop where you bought the stereo. It's going to be paid by YOU, the importer. It's the same if you buy one stereo and hand-carry it back, if you buy a crate and it gets flown over, or if you buy a shipping container full and it floats across the ocean on a boat to get here. That's reality. That's how tariffs work. Trump is telling lies. And his followers are eating them up. [/QUOTE]
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