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<blockquote data-quote="Jimi77" data-source="post: 8884493" data-attributes="member: 673702">You&#039;ve stated numerous times mfg jobs decreased under Trump.&nbsp; This is the first time you&#039;ve said anything about mfg jobs decreasing in the first quarter of 2019 (that I&#039;m aware of - I do generally ignore any post you &amp; THX are involved in).&nbsp; There is no reason to believe that mfg jobs were bound to continue decreasing nor any reason to expect mfg jobs to only increase.&nbsp;&nbsp; Growth (in everything) exploded 21-22 under Biden due to pent up demand post lock down.&nbsp; And what growth are we talking about - mfg jobs, exports, imports, GDP?&nbsp; I have no idea what any of those stats are in reference to.&nbsp; The charts below are kinda useless too.&nbsp; Is that imports, exports?&nbsp; TBH, I don&#039;t even care if imports or exports are up or down, you just happened to cite a source that was clearly manipulating those stats to paint Trump in the worst possible light.&nbsp; If imports increase due to mfg jobs returning to the US, then I&#039;m fine with that.&nbsp;&nbsp; No you clearly quoted a source that specifically included the Covid lockdown because that would paint Trump in the worst possible light and Biden in the best possible light. &quot;U.S. total annual imports increased 12% under Trump as opposed to 32% under Biden. But at the same time, the US’s total annual exports grew by less than 4% between 2016 and 2020 while increasing 41% from 2020 to 2023.&quot;You did sling BS - see above quote.&nbsp; I&#039;ve seen you post numerous times &quot;MFG jobs were down under Trump&quot; when in reality what happened is MFG jobs were up under Trump until Covid.&nbsp; And now you&#039;re trying to play some BS game where Trump&#039;s pre-covid gains don&#039;t count because they didn&#039;t straight up month after month.&nbsp; That&#039;s the point, that&#039;s where the data comes from.&nbsp; If you want to see month to month or year to year changes, you can calculate anytime frame from that dataset.&nbsp; Whoever you quoted either is too stupid to back out the effect of Covid and therefore is unqualified to comment or they purposely left included Covid to fit the &quot;Orange Man Bad/Biden Best POTUS Ever&quot; narrative, which forced me to do the math.</blockquote>

[QUOTE="Jimi77, post: 8884493, member: 673702"] You've stated numerous times mfg jobs decreased under Trump. This is the first time you've said anything about mfg jobs decreasing in the first quarter of 2019 (that I'm aware of - I do generally ignore any post you & THX are involved in). There is no reason to believe that mfg jobs were bound to continue decreasing nor any reason to expect mfg jobs to only increase. Growth (in everything) exploded 21-22 under Biden due to pent up demand post lock down. And what growth are we talking about - mfg jobs, exports, imports, GDP? I have no idea what any of those stats are in reference to. The charts below are kinda useless too. Is that imports, exports? TBH, I don't even care if imports or exports are up or down, you just happened to cite a source that was clearly manipulating those stats to paint Trump in the worst possible light. If imports increase due to mfg jobs returning to the US, then I'm fine with that. No you clearly quoted a source that specifically included the Covid lockdown because that would paint Trump in the worst possible light and Biden in the best possible light. [I]"U.S. total annual imports increased 12% under Trump as opposed to 32% under Biden. But at the same time, the US’s total annual exports grew by less than 4% between 2016 and 2020 while increasing 41% from 2020 to 2023."[/I] You did sling BS - see above quote. I've seen you post numerous times "MFG jobs were down under Trump" when in reality what happened is MFG jobs were up under Trump until Covid. And now you're trying to play some BS game where Trump's pre-covid gains don't count because they didn't straight up month after month. That's the point, that's where the data comes from. If you want to see month to month or year to year changes, you can calculate anytime frame from that dataset. Whoever you quoted either is too stupid to back out the effect of Covid and therefore is unqualified to comment or they purposely left included Covid to fit the "Orange Man Bad/Biden Best POTUS Ever" narrative, which forced me to do the math. [/QUOTE]

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