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<blockquote data-quote="RobGMN" data-source="post: 8884475" data-attributes="member: 683408"><p>Nope. I very clearly stated that mfg jobs increases under Trump, but then began to decline in the first quarter of 2019, before COVID was even a thought. If they continued the decline at the same pace, it woulkd have erased about 50% of the original gains.</p><p>Cut COVID out of the equation, and there was not only growth under Biden, but it hit levels higher than the peak under Trump, and had a higher growth rate.</p><p></p><p>Not disingenuous at all. Exports saw a .01% growth in 2019 over 2018. That had nothing to do with COVID, which hit in Feb 2020.</p><p>If you take out the COVID "valley", there was growth under Trump, but it exploded under Biden, in comparison.</p><p>2017-2018 saw 6% export growth.</p><p>2018-2019 saw .01% growth.</p><p>Kill the COVID valley and resume in 2021 where it tanked.</p><p>2021-2022 saw 17% growth</p><p>2022-2023 saw 1.1% growth</p><p>2024 *estimate 32% growth</p><p>2024 is not over, but even if Oct, Nov, Dec each only hit the LOWEST month we've had, it will put us at a 32% growth over 2023</p><p>-[ATTACH=full]61638[/ATTACH]</p><p>[ATTACH=full]61639[/ATTACH]</p><p>[ATTACH=full]61640[/ATTACH]</p><p>This is data from the the World Bank and US Census Bureau.</p><p>I'm thinking they aren't making these numbers up just to make Biden look good/Trump look bad.</p><p></p><p></p><p>I don't get my info from media sources. All of the economic data I share comes from verifiable sources, like the one above. More often than not, it's direct from the sources like Bureau of Labor Statistics, DJIA, NASDAQ, census.gov (like you did), etc.</p><p></p><p>Other people here choose to argue with data from memes that they haven't fact-checked, or claims they heard other people make (also not fact-checked).</p><p></p><p>I've been accused dozens of times for being a "liar" when I share data, and have challenged people dozens of times to show where I "lied", but not a single person has met the challenge.</p><p>This is a wholly anonymous forum, except for when people like Thxone try to dox (doxx?) me. I can, but I don't sling bullshit here.</p><p>Unlike others I don't see a benefit in it, despite the anonymity.</p><p></p><p></p><p>I tried these, but they just take me to the page where I can research all data points, build my own charts and spreadsheets, etc.</p><p>Can you screensnip the data from your pdf and share it? Otherwise, I don't know what you were wanting to show here.</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="RobGMN, post: 8884475, member: 683408"] Nope. I very clearly stated that mfg jobs increases under Trump, but then began to decline in the first quarter of 2019, before COVID was even a thought. If they continued the decline at the same pace, it woulkd have erased about 50% of the original gains. Cut COVID out of the equation, and there was not only growth under Biden, but it hit levels higher than the peak under Trump, and had a higher growth rate. Not disingenuous at all. Exports saw a .01% growth in 2019 over 2018. That had nothing to do with COVID, which hit in Feb 2020. If you take out the COVID "valley", there was growth under Trump, but it exploded under Biden, in comparison. 2017-2018 saw 6% export growth. 2018-2019 saw .01% growth. Kill the COVID valley and resume in 2021 where it tanked. 2021-2022 saw 17% growth 2022-2023 saw 1.1% growth 2024 *estimate 32% growth 2024 is not over, but even if Oct, Nov, Dec each only hit the LOWEST month we've had, it will put us at a 32% growth over 2023 -[ATTACH type="full" width="579px" alt="1733072787340.png"]61638[/ATTACH] [ATTACH type="full" width="560px" alt="1733074472392.png"]61639[/ATTACH] [ATTACH type="full" width="565px" alt="1733074546153.png"]61640[/ATTACH] This is data from the the World Bank and US Census Bureau. I'm thinking they aren't making these numbers up just to make Biden look good/Trump look bad. I don't get my info from media sources. All of the economic data I share comes from verifiable sources, like the one above. More often than not, it's direct from the sources like Bureau of Labor Statistics, DJIA, NASDAQ, census.gov (like you did), etc. Other people here choose to argue with data from memes that they haven't fact-checked, or claims they heard other people make (also not fact-checked). I've been accused dozens of times for being a "liar" when I share data, and have challenged people dozens of times to show where I "lied", but not a single person has met the challenge. This is a wholly anonymous forum, except for when people like Thxone try to dox (doxx?) me. I can, but I don't sling bullshit here. Unlike others I don't see a benefit in it, despite the anonymity. I tried these, but they just take me to the page where I can research all data points, build my own charts and spreadsheets, etc. Can you screensnip the data from your pdf and share it? Otherwise, I don't know what you were wanting to show here. [/QUOTE]
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