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<blockquote data-quote="RobGMN" data-source="post: 8884389" data-attributes="member: 683408">Well, Trump backed down when we were threatened with retaliatory tariffs.Overall, the tariffs made life more expensive for the average American.Manufacturing jobs DECREASED in the US under Trump.NO country has stopped people from LEAVING to come to the US, and no country has curbed the drug trade coming to the US.None of the stated goals or benefits of the tariffs were achieved.I usually say if you set goals and do not achieve them, and it costs you in the end, you have failed.But math is a science.Unless we are going to go with the conspiracy theories that all the numbers have been faked simply in order to make Trump look bad?Was it fakery when Canada threatened us with dollar-for-dollar tariff matching, and Trump backed down?Was it fakery when mfg jobs declined under Trump? Weren&#039;t they supposed to skyrocket from the tariffs?&quot;U.S. total annual imports increased 12% under Trump as opposed to 32% under Biden. But at the same time, the US’s total annual exports grew by less than 4% between 2016 and 2020 while increasing 41% from 2020 to 2023.&quot;All lies just to make Trump look bad, and no one in the GOP can see the the lies?Yes, but you are talking about comparing hard facts and figures of money, versus the general success of a program.A CEO can be of the opinion that his company is doing great, but if the numbers say otherwise, their opinion means jack.The NUMBERS show that Trump&#039;s tariffs did not do what was claimed they would do. So unless the numbers are all fake, the tariffs simply did not work.</blockquote>

[QUOTE="RobGMN, post: 8884389, member: 683408"] Well, Trump backed down when we were threatened with retaliatory tariffs. Overall, the tariffs made life more expensive for the average American. Manufacturing jobs DECREASED in the US under Trump. NO country has stopped people from LEAVING to come to the US, and no country has curbed the drug trade coming to the US. None of the stated goals or benefits of the tariffs were achieved. I usually say if you set goals and do not achieve them, and it costs you in the end, you have failed. But math is a science. Unless we are going to go with the conspiracy theories that all the numbers have been faked simply in order to make Trump look bad? Was it fakery when Canada threatened us with dollar-for-dollar tariff matching, and Trump backed down? Was it fakery when mfg jobs declined under Trump? Weren't they supposed to skyrocket from the tariffs? [I]"U.S. total annual imports increased 12% under Trump as opposed to 32% under Biden. But at the same time, the US’s total annual exports grew by less than 4% between 2016 and 2020 while increasing 41% from 2020 to 2023."[/I] All lies just to make Trump look bad, and no one in the GOP can see the the lies? Yes, but you are talking about comparing hard facts and figures of money, versus the general success of a program. A CEO can be of the opinion that his company is doing great, but if the numbers say otherwise, their opinion means jack. The NUMBERS show that Trump's tariffs did not do what was claimed they would do. So unless the numbers are all fake, the tariffs simply did not work. [/QUOTE]

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