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<blockquote data-quote="RobGMN" data-source="post: 8884303" data-attributes="member: 683408">We &quot;threaten them&quot; with the idea of US citizens paying more for goods?Wow. THAT will teach them...BELIEVE it all you want (because Trump said it), but the tariff does NOT get paid by the foreign exporter, and it DOESN&#039;T reduce our imports enough (if at all) to make them want to bend to our will.It has failed in the recent and distant past, and there has been no reason for us to think it will magically work this time around, especially when it&#039;s being used for a result that it would never affect.Start in 1930 with Smoot-Hawley (which made the depression worse), and work your way forward. Failure.So, I&#039;ll ask these very basic questions of you again. If you are unable to answer them, maybe this conversation is just simply over your head:Who pays the tariff on an imported good? For example: A computer from Mexico.Why would a tariff reduce illegal border crossings into the US?Of China, Canada, Mexico, which country has border control to prevent people from LEAVING?Why would a tariff reduce our demand for illegal drugs, and keep other countries from supplying them?It&#039;s been claimed that we will buy less, which will hurt the foreign exporters. History has shown that this doesn&#039;t happen, so we can&#039;t use &quot;leverage&quot; as the reason those foreign governments will &quot;clamp down&quot;.</blockquote>

[QUOTE="RobGMN, post: 8884303, member: 683408"] We "threaten them" with the idea of US citizens paying more for goods? Wow. THAT will teach them... BELIEVE it all you want (because Trump said it), but the tariff does NOT get paid by the foreign exporter, and it DOESN'T reduce our imports enough (if at all) to make them want to bend to our will. It has failed in the recent and distant past, and there has been no reason for us to think it will magically work this time around, especially when it's being used for a result that it would never affect. Start in 1930 with Smoot-Hawley (which made the depression worse), and work your way forward. Failure. So, I'll ask these very basic questions of you again. If you are unable to answer them, maybe this conversation is just simply over your head: Who pays the tariff on an imported good? For example: A computer from Mexico. Why would a tariff reduce illegal border crossings into the US? Of China, Canada, Mexico, which country has border control to prevent people from LEAVING? Why would a tariff reduce our demand for illegal drugs, and keep other countries from supplying them? It's been claimed that we will buy less, which will hurt the foreign exporters. History has shown that this doesn't happen, so we can't use "leverage" as the reason those foreign governments will "clamp down". [/QUOTE]

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