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<blockquote data-quote="RobGMN" data-source="post: 8884276" data-attributes="member: 683408"><p>No, I can't. Trump attempted trade tariffs with China in 2018. It didn't slow imports a whit.</p><p></p><p>Can you provide any evidence that this reduced drugs coming into the country, or illegal immigrants coming into the country?</p><p></p><p>Look at Walmarts sales after Trump imposed tariffs on China in 2018. </p><p>They continued the same growth they had achieved before the tariffs. </p><p>Government gets tariff money, government collects more taxes. </p><p>Net gain. </p><p></p><p>Tell me about a border patrol in the US, Mexico, Canada, or China that keeps people from LEAVING. </p><p>I've never been to an international border where they tried to stop me from leaving. </p><p>It's always the destination country that may deny entry, securing things. </p><p></p><p>He agrees overtime pay should go away. He's pushing to directly increase prices of goods by up to 25%. </p><p>He wants to strip 40M people of healthcare. </p><p>That helps the citizens HOW? </p><p></p><p></p><p>I'm talking to the very specific benefits that have been claimed for us paying more for goods, while exporters don't get affected. </p><p></p><p>I know a tariff CAN affect the exporter, but it historically hasn't. The most recent failures have been Trump's and Bush's attempts. </p><p>There are virtually no economists who say that tariffs work for economic reasons, and that predates Trump and even Bush by multiple decades. </p><p></p><p>What magic is Trump going to perform to both make tariffs work, and to make them work to affect something entirely unrelated to the business economy. ?</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="RobGMN, post: 8884276, member: 683408"] No, I can't. Trump attempted trade tariffs with China in 2018. It didn't slow imports a whit. Can you provide any evidence that this reduced drugs coming into the country, or illegal immigrants coming into the country? Look at Walmarts sales after Trump imposed tariffs on China in 2018. They continued the same growth they had achieved before the tariffs. Government gets tariff money, government collects more taxes. Net gain. Tell me about a border patrol in the US, Mexico, Canada, or China that keeps people from LEAVING. I've never been to an international border where they tried to stop me from leaving. It's always the destination country that may deny entry, securing things. He agrees overtime pay should go away. He's pushing to directly increase prices of goods by up to 25%. He wants to strip 40M people of healthcare. That helps the citizens HOW? I'm talking to the very specific benefits that have been claimed for us paying more for goods, while exporters don't get affected. I know a tariff CAN affect the exporter, but it historically hasn't. The most recent failures have been Trump's and Bush's attempts. There are virtually no economists who say that tariffs work for economic reasons, and that predates Trump and even Bush by multiple decades. What magic is Trump going to perform to both make tariffs work, and to make them work to affect something entirely unrelated to the business economy. ? [/QUOTE]
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