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<blockquote data-quote="RobGMN" data-source="post: 8873465" data-attributes="member: 683408">Interesting way to defend Trump of his lies. Speak about anything BUT the lies.And he finds it acceptable. Something to brag about doing, even. What a peach.Trump is a liar. We did not have the best economy in the history of the world when he was in office.I am personally doing better than I was during Trump. But I do not consider my self representative of &quot;America&quot;, so I turn to the numbers.The numbers say we are doing better as a whole than we were under Trump.Before you jump to polls that say &quot;people FEEL&quot;, don&#039;t bother. You can FEEL all you want that 2+2=3, but that doesn&#039;t change the mathematical fact that 2+2=4.I feel it opens up the door and sets a major precedent for every future case where a large bond is set. Just tell the judge &quot;no&quot; and another judge will back you up and give you your way.I wonder if I robbed one of his businesses and got caught, could I just say &quot;No&quot; to paying all the money back and only give back 1/4 of it?That seems like a good deal to me.I guess you don&#039;t realize that they actually proved he overstated the value of the properties. Did you miss that whole discussion?40 Wall Street was appraised at $540M in 2015. Trump immediately inflated it to $735.4M, without anything to back or explain the difference.That is against the law.They overstated the occupancy of his building, which made it appear financially healthier than it was. Whitewash on a rotted wall. That&#039;s against the law.Oh, he also stated his personal living space was 3-4x the size it actually is. Trump&#039;s own CFO even said they overestimated the value of the apartment by &quot;give or take $200 million&quot;.That&#039;s against the law.These things are called &quot;financial crimes&quot; and &quot;fraud&quot;.But it seems you have no problem with them at all. Just smart business, right?</blockquote>

[QUOTE="RobGMN, post: 8873465, member: 683408"] Interesting way to defend Trump of his lies. Speak about anything BUT the lies. And he finds it acceptable. Something to brag about doing, even. What a peach. Trump is a liar. We did not have the best economy in the history of the world when he was in office. I am personally doing better than I was during Trump. But I do not consider my self representative of "America", so I turn to the numbers. The numbers say we are doing better as a whole than we were under Trump. Before you jump to polls that say "people FEEL", don't bother. You can FEEL all you want that 2+2=3, but that doesn't change the mathematical fact that 2+2=4. I feel it opens up the door and sets a major precedent for every future case where a large bond is set. Just tell the judge "no" and another judge will back you up and give you your way. I wonder if I robbed one of his businesses and got caught, could I just say "No" to paying all the money back and only give back 1/4 of it? That seems like a good deal to me. I guess you don't realize that they actually proved he overstated the value of the properties. Did you miss that whole discussion? 40 Wall Street was appraised at $540M in 2015. Trump immediately inflated it to $735.4M, without anything to back or explain the difference. That is against the law. They overstated the occupancy of his building, which made it appear financially healthier than it was. Whitewash on a rotted wall. That's against the law. Oh, he also stated his personal living space was 3-4x the size it actually is. Trump's own CFO even said they overestimated the value of the apartment by "[I]give or take $200 million"[/I]. That's against the law. These things are called "financial crimes" and "fraud". But it seems you have no problem with them at all. Just smart business, right? [/QUOTE]

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