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<blockquote data-quote="RobGMN" data-source="post: 8873384" data-attributes="member: 683408"><p>Republicans "say they do have impeachable offenses", and that it enough for you to accept it as fact? You are the guy who is always incorrectly accusing me of simply believing stuff just because "someone tells me to", but you'll accept this claim of an impeachable offense and evidence when the Republicans themselves have said they don't have it? That totally contradicts what you demand of others.</p><p>How do you reconcile that?</p><p></p><p>OK. So you think the thing that is holding up the whole impeachment is that the Democrats are being rude and "interrupting" the Republicans when they are trying to share the impeachable offense and the evidence.</p><p>For FIFTEEN months.</p><p>Did you know that is not how it works?</p><p>Six hours of a senate session regarding the impeachment. No interruptions, no evidence presented. [MEDIA=youtube]UbNeM_H7P60[/MEDIA]</p><p>It also bears mentioning that you don't believe the events of Jan 6th could have affected the electoral vote, but by simply INTERRUPTING, the Democrats have stopped the Republicans from impeaching Biden.</p><p></p><p>It seems you think the pen really IS mightier than the sword. Maybe instead of going to war with other countries, we should just shout insults or threats at them.</p><p></p><p>Actually yes, the declaration of evidence and the evidence must be shared with me, with you, with ALL Americans. It's part of the legal process and part of how Senate hearings work. They are open-door unless there is concern of national security info being discussed</p><p>If a POTUS is to be impeached, then they must declare the reason and present evidence to do so.</p><p>While it is possible to impeach and remove a POTUS without evidence, the thought of it actually happening is laughable, and I'm sure we all know it.</p><p></p><p>I know you think all of the news outlets are fake, liars, and simply out to get Trump, but they are all reporting there has been no evidence declared or provided. You would think if this was false, SOMEONE would have caught it and said "Hey, they actually DID provide evidence". But they haven't. And they haven't.</p><p></p><p>Even Republicans admit it.</p><p></p><p>Republican Representative Dave Joyce admits to voting the party line with no evidence:</p><p><em>"The process has been abused,” Joyce said in an interview with NewsNation’s Dan Abrams. “It’s meant to take out mentally deficient folks, somebody who’s lost their mind while they’re in office, or somebody who’s a [former Rep. George] Santos, <strong>like where they’ve committed in crimes while they’re in offic</strong>e.”</em></p><p><em>“<strong>And you know, I don’t see that yet, but the opportunity for the, for the, operative committees to gather the information</strong> and present it in an orderly fashion, so people can make rational decisions is what I base my decision on,” he continued during the appearance on “Dan Abrams Live.”</em></p><p><em>When pressed further on what specific crimes Republicans are investigating Biden for, Joyce had no answer.</em></p><p><em>“And as a former prosecutor, <strong>what exactly is the high crime or misdemeanor that’s being investigated?</strong>” Abrams asked Joyce. </em></p><p><em>“Well, yeah,<strong> that’s a good point. And I haven’t seen any of that today, but I’m looking forward to the investigative committees</strong>. … I have three different committees that are all focused on this —<strong>OK, put up or shut up. You either have the evidence or you don’t,</strong>” Joyce responded.</em></p><p>[URL unfurl="true"]https://thehill.com/homenews/house/4360176-gop-lawmaker-who-backed-impeachment-inquiry-admits-hes-seen-no-evidence-of-high-crime-or-misdemeanor/[/URL]</p><p></p><p></p><p>They aren't my "statements". They are Trump's lies, and have been proved to be so.</p><p>Your statement is that they are not lies but you have failed to address them or be able to support your statement, save for admitting that the "571 miles" of wall claim was indeed a lie.</p><p></p><p>Despite multiple requests, you haven't moved on to even one more, specifically proof that he was POTUS during the "best economy in the history of the world".</p><p>A statement that can be easily proved or disproved mathematically.</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="RobGMN, post: 8873384, member: 683408"] Republicans "say they do have impeachable offenses", and that it enough for you to accept it as fact? You are the guy who is always incorrectly accusing me of simply believing stuff just because "someone tells me to", but you'll accept this claim of an impeachable offense and evidence when the Republicans themselves have said they don't have it? That totally contradicts what you demand of others. How do you reconcile that? OK. So you think the thing that is holding up the whole impeachment is that the Democrats are being rude and "interrupting" the Republicans when they are trying to share the impeachable offense and the evidence. For FIFTEEN months. Did you know that is not how it works? Six hours of a senate session regarding the impeachment. No interruptions, no evidence presented. [MEDIA=youtube]UbNeM_H7P60[/MEDIA] It also bears mentioning that you don't believe the events of Jan 6th could have affected the electoral vote, but by simply INTERRUPTING, the Democrats have stopped the Republicans from impeaching Biden. It seems you think the pen really IS mightier than the sword. Maybe instead of going to war with other countries, we should just shout insults or threats at them. Actually yes, the declaration of evidence and the evidence must be shared with me, with you, with ALL Americans. It's part of the legal process and part of how Senate hearings work. They are open-door unless there is concern of national security info being discussed If a POTUS is to be impeached, then they must declare the reason and present evidence to do so. While it is possible to impeach and remove a POTUS without evidence, the thought of it actually happening is laughable, and I'm sure we all know it. I know you think all of the news outlets are fake, liars, and simply out to get Trump, but they are all reporting there has been no evidence declared or provided. You would think if this was false, SOMEONE would have caught it and said "Hey, they actually DID provide evidence". But they haven't. And they haven't. Even Republicans admit it. Republican Representative Dave Joyce admits to voting the party line with no evidence: [I]"The process has been abused,” Joyce said in an interview with NewsNation’s Dan Abrams. “It’s meant to take out mentally deficient folks, somebody who’s lost their mind while they’re in office, or somebody who’s a [former Rep. George] Santos, [B]like where they’ve committed in crimes while they’re in offic[/B]e.” “[B]And you know, I don’t see that yet, but the opportunity for the, for the, operative committees to gather the information[/B] and present it in an orderly fashion, so people can make rational decisions is what I base my decision on,” he continued during the appearance on “Dan Abrams Live.” When pressed further on what specific crimes Republicans are investigating Biden for, Joyce had no answer. “And as a former prosecutor, [B]what exactly is the high crime or misdemeanor that’s being investigated?[/B]” Abrams asked Joyce. “Well, yeah,[B] that’s a good point. And I haven’t seen any of that today, but I’m looking forward to the investigative committees[/B]. … I have three different committees that are all focused on this —[B]OK, put up or shut up. You either have the evidence or you don’t,[/B]” Joyce responded.[/I] [URL unfurl="true"]https://thehill.com/homenews/house/4360176-gop-lawmaker-who-backed-impeachment-inquiry-admits-hes-seen-no-evidence-of-high-crime-or-misdemeanor/[/URL] They aren't my "statements". They are Trump's lies, and have been proved to be so. Your statement is that they are not lies but you have failed to address them or be able to support your statement, save for admitting that the "571 miles" of wall claim was indeed a lie. Despite multiple requests, you haven't moved on to even one more, specifically proof that he was POTUS during the "best economy in the history of the world". A statement that can be easily proved or disproved mathematically. [/QUOTE]
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