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<blockquote data-quote="Firewalker" data-source="post: 8772449" data-attributes="member: 676743"><p>That pipeline was being built just for that quality of crude. It is very nasty very corrosive and just destroys anything it touches including pipes. There is one refinery in the US built to process it but they want nothing to do with it. Basically it was going to go from Canada to the southern shores then loaded onto tankers to be sent to China as they have a few refineries that can process it and they could care less about the impact it has.</p><p></p><p>The majority of the crude oil coming from Canada is not like that at all. As I said the pipeline was being built just to transport that garbage. Since they started to build it, it has had leaks in Canada several times and a couple leaks here in the states as well. Dad saw what that stuff will do when he visited that refinery in Texas that can refine it, they finally had enough of it years ago and said no more the cost isn't worth it.</p><p></p><p>Tbh most people are not aware of what really happens in the oil industry. They just assume or think oh the its the presidents fault or its OPEC's fault or some other reason. Facts are we have oil tankers sitting sometimes around 3-4 months before being off-loaded in this country at several ports around the country.</p><p></p><p>Kinda the same thing when people ask why there hasn't been a new refinery since 1976 with the Mobil Oil refinery in Elwood, IL. It isn't the EPA like so many want to blame. It is the oil companies because that means more output and lower prices. Refineries can operate at a 90-92% capacity very safely. Most are running around 50-60% capacity because that means lower output which means higher gas prices.</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="Firewalker, post: 8772449, member: 676743"] That pipeline was being built just for that quality of crude. It is very nasty very corrosive and just destroys anything it touches including pipes. There is one refinery in the US built to process it but they want nothing to do with it. Basically it was going to go from Canada to the southern shores then loaded onto tankers to be sent to China as they have a few refineries that can process it and they could care less about the impact it has. The majority of the crude oil coming from Canada is not like that at all. As I said the pipeline was being built just to transport that garbage. Since they started to build it, it has had leaks in Canada several times and a couple leaks here in the states as well. Dad saw what that stuff will do when he visited that refinery in Texas that can refine it, they finally had enough of it years ago and said no more the cost isn't worth it. Tbh most people are not aware of what really happens in the oil industry. They just assume or think oh the its the presidents fault or its OPEC's fault or some other reason. Facts are we have oil tankers sitting sometimes around 3-4 months before being off-loaded in this country at several ports around the country. Kinda the same thing when people ask why there hasn't been a new refinery since 1976 with the Mobil Oil refinery in Elwood, IL. It isn't the EPA like so many want to blame. It is the oil companies because that means more output and lower prices. Refineries can operate at a 90-92% capacity very safely. Most are running around 50-60% capacity because that means lower output which means higher gas prices. [/QUOTE]
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