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<blockquote data-quote="thefunkybunch" data-source="post: 2563137" data-attributes="member: 563903">i&#039;ve only had a couple experiences with them recently, and neither of them leave me with anything positive to say.&nbsp; one pair i installed came with a blown woofer right out of the box, from the same website store place.&nbsp; they didn&#039;t appear to be used, but i really didnt look that closely before i installed them.&nbsp; the one was blown, and the other didn&#039;t really sound all that impressive.&nbsp; we replaced them with sl60&#039;s and was an immediate improvement.&nbsp; the other set i installed in a jetta, everything actually worked, but believe it or not, the VW factory speakers off the factory deck actually sounded better, and had better rance and midbass than the clif&#039;s off a jl 300/4.&nbsp; those were also swapped out for a set of bostons shortly thereafter, with another immediate improvement.my .02 say steer clear.&nbsp; maybe back in the olden days they made a better product, but what i&#039;ve seen in my isolated instances leaves a lot to be desired.</blockquote>

[QUOTE="thefunkybunch, post: 2563137, member: 563903"] i've only had a couple experiences with them recently, and neither of them leave me with anything positive to say. one pair i installed came with a blown woofer right out of the box, from the same website store place. they didn't appear to be used, but i really didnt look that closely before i installed them. the one was blown, and the other didn't really sound all that impressive. we replaced them with sl60's and was an immediate improvement. the other set i installed in a jetta, everything actually worked, but believe it or not, the VW factory speakers off the factory deck actually sounded better, and had better rance and midbass than the clif's off a jl 300/4. those were also swapped out for a set of bostons shortly thereafter, with another immediate improvement. my .02 say steer clear. maybe back in the olden days they made a better product, but what i've seen in my isolated instances leaves a lot to be desired. [/QUOTE]

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