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<blockquote data-quote="GSteg" data-source="post: 101697" data-attributes="member: 543107">i don&#039;t know if it had effected you or not, but my friends and i had a case where the judges were biased towards brand. we had 2 cars available for the competition (a 95 and a 97 honda accord.) both were equipped with an alpine cda-7850 and MB quarts PSC 213 componenet speakers. the system were exactly the same, except one car (the 95) had Jensen speaker grills instead of the MB quart. and guess which car had the better sound quality according to the judges?//content.invisioncic.com/y282845/emoticons/rolleyes.gif.c1fef805e9d1464d377451cd5bc18bfb.gif&nbsp; anyways..thats another story..yes i didn&#039;t mention any other things that seperates headunits, but we were only talking about DAC and only DAC. if we were to talk about DAC with other different features, then we would be comparing apples to oranges wouldn&#039;t we..&nbsp; 1-bit (single bit) and multi-bit (was it ladder or successive approximation?) converts digital waveforms&nbsp; differently, but their final analog waveforms will be identical. the multi-bit may create SOME waveforms better, but the difference is inaudible, especially with music. if multi-bit converters had better sound than 1-bit, why wouldn&#039;t we be using stock headunits since most of them have 16-bit DAC? remember..we&#039;re only talking about DAC here..</blockquote>

[QUOTE="GSteg, post: 101697, member: 543107"] i don't know if it had effected you or not, but my friends and i had a case where the judges were biased towards brand. we had 2 cars available for the competition (a 95 and a 97 honda accord.) both were equipped with an alpine cda-7850 and MB quarts PSC 213 componenet speakers. the system were exactly the same, except one car (the 95) had Jensen speaker grills instead of the MB quart. and guess which car had the better sound quality according to the judges?[IMG]//content.invisioncic.com/y282845/emoticons/rolleyes.gif.c1fef805e9d1464d377451cd5bc18bfb.gif[/IMG] anyways..thats another story.. yes i didn't mention any other things that seperates headunits, but we were only talking about DAC and only DAC. if we were to talk about DAC with other different features, then we would be comparing apples to oranges wouldn't we.. 1-bit (single bit) and multi-bit (was it ladder or successive approximation?) converts digital waveforms differently, but their final analog waveforms will be identical. the multi-bit may create SOME waveforms better, but the difference is inaudible, especially with music. if multi-bit converters had better sound than 1-bit, why wouldn't we be using stock headunits since most of them have 16-bit DAC? remember..we're only talking about DAC here.. [/QUOTE]

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