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<blockquote data-quote="Greg200SE-R" data-source="post: 1030712" data-attributes="member: 560729">Hours and hours of tweaking my (returned) Eclipse 8455 has taught me that I have no need for anything higher than 18dB slopes...&nbsp; In fact, I liked the sound of 6dB slopes for my mids+tweets much better than 12, 18 or 24dB!&nbsp; Of course, with such a shallow slope I ended up with staggered frequencies (800Hz LP and 1600Hz HP, for a -3dB point around 1200Hz) rather than a common HP/LP frequency.&nbsp; 6dB seemed to let the highs and lows mesh together a lot better.This REALLY opened up the sound, height- and width-wise.&nbsp; It leaves no sound &quot;gaps&quot; between the mids and tweeters like the 12 to 24dB slopes did.&nbsp; Even my sub/mid XO ended up with only 12dB slopes.&nbsp; So, for my car at least, the Clarion has a flexible enough crossover plus more precise time-alignment, which is what I wanted in the Eclipse.I would have liked MP3 capability and HD/SAT radio though.&nbsp; I will miss the memory stick feature as well.</blockquote>

[QUOTE="Greg200SE-R, post: 1030712, member: 560729"] Hours and hours of tweaking my (returned) Eclipse 8455 has taught me that I have no need for anything higher than 18dB slopes... In fact, I liked the sound of 6dB slopes for my mids+tweets much better than 12, 18 or 24dB! Of course, with such a shallow slope I ended up with staggered frequencies (800Hz LP and 1600Hz HP, for a -3dB point around 1200Hz) rather than a common HP/LP frequency. 6dB seemed to let the highs and lows mesh together a lot better. This REALLY opened up the sound, height- and width-wise. It leaves no sound "gaps" between the mids and tweeters like the 12 to 24dB slopes did. Even my sub/mid XO ended up with only 12dB slopes. So, for my car at least, the Clarion has a flexible enough crossover plus more precise time-alignment, which is what I wanted in the Eclipse. I would have liked MP3 capability and HD/SAT radio though. I will miss the memory stick feature as well. [/QUOTE]

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