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<blockquote data-quote="sam_b03" data-source="post: 7685225" data-attributes="member: 607518">All great countries have fought to expand. This means that they took what they wanted by force. We won the war. I am still trying to figure out way we didn&#039;t force them to asimilate in to the general public. I think out biggest mistake is we are one of the first countries not to bill for war reparations. All through history the loser of a war had to pay the winner what ever money they had left for the cost of battling them. For instance Japan attacked up. We spend a fortune in ships, men, and other supplies. Not mention the billions on the Manhattan Project. We smash them than pay to rebuild to help get them back on their feet so they can destroy are economy 40 years later. Rome fell because they got too big and couldn&#039;t police all the land they have taken.The &quot;successful&quot; countries now have closed borders. Australia you have to be below a certain age (they don&#039;t want it to turn into Florida), no criminal record, and have a job lined up so you go to work from the git go. They farm alot of fruit so no matter what you what to do there to get a work visa you have to already have job lined up picking fruit for several months. Being water locked limits the illegal immagrants that are willing to work for nothing and take tetious jobs. I still believe that necessity is the mother of all invention. Somebody will come up with a way to get the crappy jobs done whether through increased pay, new techniques, or mechanical means. They happen to make you purchase your right to be there through manual labor. They aren&#039;t twisting anybodies arm to do it. They volunteer to do to get what they want.</blockquote>

[QUOTE="sam_b03, post: 7685225, member: 607518"] All great countries have fought to expand. This means that they took what they wanted by force. We won the war. I am still trying to figure out way we didn't force them to asimilate in to the general public. I think out biggest mistake is we are one of the first countries not to bill for war reparations. All through history the loser of a war had to pay the winner what ever money they had left for the cost of battling them. For instance Japan attacked up. We spend a fortune in ships, men, and other supplies. Not mention the billions on the Manhattan Project. We smash them than pay to rebuild to help get them back on their feet so they can destroy are economy 40 years later. Rome fell because they got too big and couldn't police all the land they have taken. The "successful" countries now have closed borders. Australia you have to be below a certain age (they don't want it to turn into Florida), no criminal record, and have a job lined up so you go to work from the git go. They farm alot of fruit so no matter what you what to do there to get a work visa you have to already have job lined up picking fruit for several months. Being water locked limits the illegal immagrants that are willing to work for nothing and take tetious jobs. I still believe that necessity is the mother of all invention. Somebody will come up with a way to get the crappy jobs done whether through increased pay, new techniques, or mechanical means. They happen to make you purchase your right to be there through manual labor. They aren't twisting anybodies arm to do it. They volunteer to do to get what they want. [/QUOTE]

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