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<blockquote data-quote="Loudmp5" data-source="post: 8071957" data-attributes="member: 636945">[quote name=&#039;hispls&#039;]Well. that&amp;#39;s the tricky thing about socialism/communism/collectivism in general.&nbsp; Once the state is in charge of your healthcare the cries of &quot;why should I have to pay for someone elses unhealthy decisions?&quot;&nbsp; will be answered with more controll over your life.&nbsp;&nbsp; And rightfully so.&nbsp;&nbsp; If your neighbors are paying for your doctor visits they certainly should be able to demand that you don&amp;#39;t engage in totally unhealthy behavior.&nbsp; The masses, as a whole, seem to not value either personal liberty or the implied personal responsibility that comes with it.&nbsp; &nbsp; People think healthcare is expensive now, just wait and see what it costs once it&amp;#39;s &quot;free&quot;. &nbsp;Our &quot;government&quot; is the Constitution for the United States.&nbsp; Have you read it?&nbsp; It seemed to work fine when it was being followed. The old addage &quot;as above, so below&quot; certainly applies here I think.&nbsp; We are seeing a reflection of the moral decay, greed, lazyness, and dishonesty of ourselves in our elected (selected) representatives.&nbsp; &nbsp; Collectively our apathy, ignorance, and willingness to tolerate the behavior and character of those in high level office is being rewarded.&nbsp;&nbsp; How many people vote for &quot;the lesser of two evils&quot;?&nbsp;&nbsp; Well, guess what, we vote for evil, then complaing about it, but never really do anything but vote for &quot;less evil&quot; the next time.</blockquote>OKAY YOU sir are right about the people WE chose to represent. wait nope your right about everything in that post lol.&nbsp;[USER=614752]@hispls[/USER] ; FOR PRES.... I sware he will do better than oboma...[/QUOTE]

[QUOTE="Loudmp5, post: 8071957, member: 636945"] [quote name='hispls']Well. that's the tricky thing about socialism/communism/collectivism in general. Once the state is in charge of your healthcare the cries of "why should I have to pay for someone elses unhealthy decisions?" will be answered with more controll over your life. And rightfully so. If your neighbors are paying for your doctor visits they certainly should be able to demand that you don't engage in totally unhealthy behavior. The masses, as a whole, seem to not value either personal liberty or the implied personal responsibility that comes with it. People think healthcare is expensive now, just wait and see what it costs once it's "free". Our "government" is the Constitution for the United States. Have you read it? It seemed to work fine when it was being followed. The old addage "as above, so below" certainly applies here I think. We are seeing a reflection of the moral decay, greed, lazyness, and dishonesty of ourselves in our elected (selected) representatives. Collectively our apathy, ignorance, and willingness to tolerate the behavior and character of those in high level office is being rewarded. How many people vote for "the lesser of two evils"? Well, guess what, we vote for evil, then complaing about it, but never really do anything but vote for "less evil" the next time.[/QUOTE] OKAY YOU sir are right about the people WE chose to represent. wait nope your right about everything in that post lol. [USER=614752]@hispls[/USER] ; FOR PRES.... I sware he will do better than oboma... [/QUOTE]

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