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<blockquote data-quote="starkfu" data-source="post: 3256661" data-attributes="member: 579412">I think you are the one not getting it.We understand you want a job in the industry and you think going to school will equal experience or get you an in - it doesn&#039;t work that way.You need to be PERSISTANT in getting a job, if an employer thinks you don&#039;t want it, he won&#039;t give it to you.Going in and saying&nbsp; &quot;do you guys have any openings&quot; isn&#039;t going to cut it.&nbsp; Be creative, show up at shows and competitions.&nbsp; You can&#039;t just bust in and become a top notch installer after going to a school.&nbsp; This isn&#039;t getting an HR job where a degree gets you in the door.We are trying to help you out, don&#039;t ask the same question 20 times and get upset when you get the same answer 19 times.&nbsp; If we didn&#039;t care we would all tell you to do it and it was great.&nbsp; But the reality is that for a beginner it isn&#039;t the best road.&nbsp; Get an internship or understudy somewhere, or even as the one guy said, start at best buy or CC or something.&nbsp; If there really aren&#039;t any jobs (in which case you aren&#039;t looking hard enough) then wait for one to open up and spend your free time learning, study the MECP guide and maybe even take the test, I would MUCH rather hire a basic MECP certified new guy then a school grad as I stated before.Final piece of advice, you do sort of have a know it all attitude given some of your responses.&nbsp; You will need to learn to subvert that and know that you ARE going to make mistakes and instead of trying to advoid them, learn how to deal with them and learn from them so you don&#039;t do it again next time.-small story - first porsche 911 I worked on - didn&#039;t know that the key worked in the reverse direction and started the car while in reverse.... while I was hanging out of it.&nbsp; Made it a point to tell the customer what had happened and he was understanding and actually thanked me for being up front and honest.&nbsp; I caused about 500 dollars in cosmetic damage that we had to cover.&nbsp; But I never again started any manual vehicle without checking the gear placement and now know a lot more about porsches.I wish you the best and hope it all works out for you!</blockquote>

[QUOTE="starkfu, post: 3256661, member: 579412"] I think you are the one not getting it. We understand you want a job in the industry and you think going to school will equal experience or get you an in - it doesn't work that way. You need to be PERSISTANT in getting a job, if an employer thinks you don't want it, he won't give it to you. Going in and saying "do you guys have any openings" isn't going to cut it. Be creative, show up at shows and competitions. You can't just bust in and become a top notch installer after going to a school. This isn't getting an HR job where a degree gets you in the door. We are trying to help you out, don't ask the same question 20 times and get upset when you get the same answer 19 times. If we didn't care we would all tell you to do it and it was great. But the reality is that for a beginner it isn't the best road. Get an internship or understudy somewhere, or even as the one guy said, start at best buy or CC or something. If there really aren't any jobs (in which case you aren't looking hard enough) then wait for one to open up and spend your free time learning, study the MECP guide and maybe even take the test, I would MUCH rather hire a basic MECP certified new guy then a school grad as I stated before. Final piece of advice, you do sort of have a know it all attitude given some of your responses. You will need to learn to subvert that and know that you ARE going to make mistakes and instead of trying to advoid them, learn how to deal with them and learn from them so you don't do it again next time. -small story - first porsche 911 I worked on - didn't know that the key worked in the reverse direction and started the car while in reverse.... while I was hanging out of it. Made it a point to tell the customer what had happened and he was understanding and actually thanked me for being up front and honest. I caused about 500 dollars in cosmetic damage that we had to cover. But I never again started any manual vehicle without checking the gear placement and now know a lot more about porsches. I wish you the best and hope it all works out for you! [/QUOTE]

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