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<blockquote data-quote="keep_hope_alive" data-source="post: 8345317" data-attributes="member: 576029">i&#039;ve seen well over 200 posts of people complaining about noise from Pioneer head units, and that&#039;s just what i&#039;ve seen.&nbsp; I don&#039;t see any from other manufacturers.&nbsp; That&#039;s a big deal.&nbsp; Many have not swapped hot and still had noise.&nbsp; Pioneer is aware but does nothing.&nbsp; &nbsp; I&#039;ve discussed this with their techs and they know but don&#039;t care. That is negligent.The Pioneer crossovers sound poor.&nbsp; defeat them and use a good crossover and the difference is immediately apparent.&nbsp;&nbsp; to me, they sound like Behringer crossovers - which are terrible and cheap - cheap as the 80PRS.&nbsp;&nbsp; 24 bit DAC isn&#039;t all we care about.&nbsp;&nbsp; Even the Alpine crossovers have an unexpected shape but they sound good.With Alpine, sub level is one press of the volume away.&nbsp; the most common thing we want to tweak by album/song.&nbsp; Pioneer hides it in a menu.i&#039;m not arguing, just sharing my reasoning in more detail.&nbsp; i know the 80PRS is the forum boner because it has active crossovers - but if someone doesn&#039;t like their crossover sound quality or menu structure, it becomes a paper weight.&nbsp; //content.invisioncic.com/y282845/emoticons/smile.gif.1ebc41e1811405b213edfc4622c41e27.gif ---------- Post added at 06:11 PM ---------- Previous post was at 06:10 PM ---------- the display on the HD149BT is really worth the extra coin.&nbsp; I like the BioLite display a lot.</blockquote>

[QUOTE="keep_hope_alive, post: 8345317, member: 576029"] i've seen well over 200 posts of people complaining about noise from Pioneer head units, and that's just what i've seen. I don't see any from other manufacturers. That's a big deal. Many have not swapped hot and still had noise. Pioneer is aware but does nothing. I've discussed this with their techs and they know but don't care. That is negligent. The Pioneer crossovers sound poor. defeat them and use a good crossover and the difference is immediately apparent. to me, they sound like Behringer crossovers - which are terrible and cheap - cheap as the 80PRS. 24 bit DAC isn't all we care about. Even the Alpine crossovers have an unexpected shape but they sound good. With Alpine, sub level is one press of the volume away. the most common thing we want to tweak by album/song. Pioneer hides it in a menu. i'm not arguing, just sharing my reasoning in more detail. i know the 80PRS is the forum boner because it has active crossovers - but if someone doesn't like their crossover sound quality or menu structure, it becomes a paper weight. [IMG]//content.invisioncic.com/y282845/emoticons/smile.gif.1ebc41e1811405b213edfc4622c41e27.gif[/IMG] [COLOR=Silver] [/COLOR] [COLOR=Silver][SIZE=8px]---------- Post added at 06:11 PM ---------- Previous post was at 06:10 PM ----------[/SIZE][/COLOR][SIZE=8px][/SIZE] [COLOR=Silver] [/COLOR] the display on the HD149BT is really worth the extra coin. I like the BioLite display a lot. [/QUOTE]

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