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<blockquote data-quote="mjf" data-source="post: 5118882" data-attributes="member: 572759">well maybe you havea clue of what you are doing, good for you that you went out and learned how to install things properly.you can and will get very ripped off in B&amp;amp;M stores, they&#039;re just resellers, its not like they&#039;re producing the products, the manufacturers are just allowing them to sell their products at rates which generally will vary widely from store to store, sometimes in hundreds of dollars. So strictly going by this, you can get scammed very very easily because a lot of the B&amp;amp;M stores aren&#039;t very capable of providing product information properly, or have knowledgeable staff who are willing to go out of their way to learn more about the products they are installing and how to do it properly.Finding a good B&amp;amp;M shop who have experienced installers who can install things properly, and if they do not know how, will either tell you straight to your face, or go far out of their way and find out how to do it properly. but the people who are not simply in the business to make money, and doing it simply because they enjoy doing it, are extremely hard to find.And it hurts installs because people want to do it themselves? Why the hell would this be an issue? Oh wait, because ill go out on a limb and say 95% of the B&amp;amp;M shops can&#039;t do it properly to begin with, so by people going out of their way to figure out how to do something properly so that it doesn&#039;t end up resulting in disaster that would cost them much more money in the long run is a problem?you&#039;re a moron for making that statement, people being educated in no way shape or form is a bad thing.</blockquote>

[QUOTE="mjf, post: 5118882, member: 572759"] well maybe you havea clue of what you are doing, good for you that you went out and learned how to install things properly. you can and will get very ripped off in B&M stores, they're just resellers, its not like they're producing the products, the manufacturers are just allowing them to sell their products at rates which generally will vary widely from store to store, sometimes in hundreds of dollars. So strictly going by this, you can get scammed very very easily because a lot of the B&M stores aren't very capable of providing product information properly, or have knowledgeable staff who are willing to go out of their way to learn more about the products they are installing and how to do it properly. Finding a good B&M shop who have experienced installers who can install things properly, and if they do not know how, will either tell you straight to your face, or go far out of their way and find out how to do it properly. but the people who are not simply in the business to make money, and doing it simply because they enjoy doing it, are extremely hard to find. And it hurts installs because people want to do it themselves? Why the hell would this be an issue? Oh wait, because ill go out on a limb and say 95% of the B&M shops can't do it properly to begin with, so by people going out of their way to figure out how to do something properly so that it doesn't end up resulting in disaster that would cost them much more money in the long run is a problem? you're a moron for making that statement, people being educated in no way shape or form is a bad thing. [/QUOTE]

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