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<blockquote data-quote="FullThrottle7" data-source="post: 320472" data-attributes="member: 546116"><p>Even the TI12? It has nearly the same specs from what I can see as far as power handling and XMAX. Also, the Pioneer handles more power than the SE. What about the SE makes it so much louder? If I feed the SE about 600w RMS and the TI12 the same, are you saying that the SE will be louder or just have better SQ. I don&#039;t mean to question your opinion, I just find it difficult to see that the sub will be waayyy better given the same enclosure and power. I thought that the Phoenix Gold Titanium subs were supposed to be a really nice combination of SPL and SQ and the one I listed is only $120. I thought that would be pretty hard to beat and since I&#039;m going to have to buy a new amp to power whatever sub I get and build or buy a new box, a $50-$70 price difference is quite a bit. Thanks for your help, this makes it much easier for me to choose my new equipment.</p></blockquote><p></p>

[QUOTE="FullThrottle7, post: 320472, member: 546116"] Even the TI12? It has nearly the same specs from what I can see as far as power handling and XMAX. Also, the Pioneer handles more power than the SE. What about the SE makes it so much louder? If I feed the SE about 600w RMS and the TI12 the same, are you saying that the SE will be louder or just have better SQ. I don't mean to question your opinion, I just find it difficult to see that the sub will be waayyy better given the same enclosure and power. I thought that the Phoenix Gold Titanium subs were supposed to be a really nice combination of SPL and SQ and the one I listed is only $120. I thought that would be pretty hard to beat and since I'm going to have to buy a new amp to power whatever sub I get and build or buy a new box, a $50-$70 price difference is quite a bit. Thanks for your help, this makes it much easier for me to choose my new equipment. [/QUOTE]

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